Containers Lost

Containers Lost




Don't know if this has been posted or not

http://wncn.com/2018/03/05/4-of-70-lost-containers-are-found-near-nc-coast-1-still-missing-contains-sulfuric-acid/
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USDHSCG/bulletins/1df7483

NAGS HEAD, N.C. Plane — The U.S. Coast Guard says a cargo ship lost 70 of its 30,000 containers off North Carolina’s Outer Banks in 65-mph storm winds and waves up to 30 feet tall.

RELATED: Key road at NC Outer Banks to remain closed Tuesday as high winds continue

The agency says one of the containers knocked overboard Saturday from the Maersk Shanghai contained nearly 6,000 pounds of sulfuric acid, a chemical commonly used to produce fertilizer.

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The Virginian-Pilot of Norfolk reports that Coast Guard spokesman Ronald Hodges cites experts in saying the environmental threat appeared minimal because sulfuric acid dissolves in saltwater.

The ship lost the cargo about 17 miles off the Oregon Inlet.

Company spokeswoman Katherine Mosquera says the Liberia-flagged ship anchored in Charleston, South Carolina, where officials were assessing the situation.

The Coast Guard says it found four of the containers floating offshore.

It wasn’t immediately reported what other containers held.


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of course it wasn't a container of something useful to everyday folks like us. Good thing it wasn't a shipment for Wings and Super Wings.....


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I'm not a chemist but today's Virginian Pilot says that sulfuric acid breaks down fairly rapidly in salt water. Hoping that's the case or that they recover all of them soon.


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many years ago, maybe 40?, there was a large tank? container of sulfuric acid in the Chesapeake Bay near Mathews County. I cannot recall the circumstances, and this was when container ships were just starting. I know folks were worried about if it leaked would there be a cloud of gas, there was quite a bit of concern. When a diver went to check on it, just a couple days later, container was empty, no clouds of gas, no effect on fish, everything was ok.


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From what I hear the containers dropping off is not uncommon. Many sink but some float near the surface and was thought to be what took out a fishing charter that was captured on Wicked Tuna some years ago, Pickle would know more about this. Around here we all remember the Doritos in 2006.


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I'm not a chemist but today's Virginian Pilot says that sulfuric acid breaks down fairly rapidly in salt water. Hoping that's the case or that they recover all of them soon.

notinobx
That amount of sulfuric acid is around 500 gallons, + or -. (It will vary with the concentration.) It will be diluted to just some more ions in a matters of seconds in the ocean.


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Doritos.... I remember them. The bags were all in spanish too.




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I am a chemist and sulfuric acid reacts very violently with water very fast as mentioned - even salt water. Hopefully if a container leaks it's a very slow leak so the reaction is slow. The reaction with water is very exothermic - generates a lot of heat - and depending how fast can even result in a localized explosion. Also as mentioned there should be no residual effects due to the dilution effect - other than the metals from the containers. Hope this is far off shore.


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I am a chemist and sulfuric acid reacts very violently with water very fast as mentioned - even salt water. Hopefully if a container leaks it's a very slow leak so the reaction is slow. The reaction with water is very exothermic - generates a lot of heat - and depending how fast can even result in a localized explosion. Also as mentioned there should be no residual effects due to the dilution effect - other than the metals from the containers. Hope this is far off shore.

OBXSteve
Is that the old saw: "Acid on water and do as you oughter"?

I would expect the container and barrels to sink as this is heavier than water. I wonder what type of barrels are used... steel drums can't be it for acid!


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A bit more information from the Coastal Review Online: https://www.coastalreview.org/2018/03/containers-overboard/


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Send a couple A10s out container hunting! Get in a little target practice and sink those containers with the Gatling Gun!


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From what I hear the containers dropping off is not uncommon. Many sink but some float near the surface and was thought to be what took out a fishing charter that was captured on Wicked Tuna some years ago, Pickle would know more about this. Around here we all remember the Doritos in 2006.

Tim-OBX



I was on a cruise a few years ago when the ship hit a 40ft container which was floating right below the surface. I was on one of the lower decks near the bow, the sound was incredible. We slowed, stopped and they lower a small boat and a few workers to check out the damage, they said their was none. 20 minutes later we were back on our way.


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More info released, it seems three of the containers where full of beach canopy frames, so if you see them up and down the beach, well...... Wink smiley


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Corakers Dad - Hilarious. Well played!

Mr. JM Browning - you seem nostalgic for the good old days when Willow Grove was operational and A-10's and P-3's filled the skies. That said, what if those conex boxes were filled with adult beverages. Peppering them with 30mm would be an atrocious crime! Besides, i would think you'd want to use one of your own creations, like the Ma Deuce!