Dark Sky lighting

Dark Sky lighting




We're doing some outdoor renovations at home and I bought a dark sky compliant light fixture to see if we liked them. What a difference. It even makes it easy to look at things directly beyond the light because the bulb is shaded. All of the light is directed down to the ground so it doesn't destroy your night vision and two other bonuses - no glass to clean and a lot less bugs are drawn to it. I ordered the rest yesterday to replace all of the outside fixtures. Maybe it will catch on with some of my neighbors who keep their lights on all night.


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Sounds great. I'd not heard of these "dark sky compliant" fixtures.

Edited to add that I now see it's pretty much a downlight kind of fixture so light is not radiating out and up, but only lighting what is below. Certainly makes sense. Yes, wouldn't it be wonderful if everyone was considerate of wanting to see the night sky, keep their night vision and be thoughtful towards their neighbors. Good for you, Greg.


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I picked Vaxcel lighting, I bought them through Jet. But there are more choices if you google dark sky lighting.

https://jet.com/product/Vaxcel-International-T0348-10-in-Outland-Outdoor-Post-Light/15a1f5ef876e45fcb614f5b1df2a9a13?jcmp=pla:ggl:nj_dur_cwin_patio_garden_a1:patio_garden_outdoor_lighting_post_lights_lamp_posts_a1:na:PLA_786356823_43563528200_pla-292153546731_t:na:na:na:2PLA15&code=PLA15&pid=kenshoo_int&c=786356823&is_retargeting=true&clickid=2837cad3-10e0-4790-bd7c-ce22f6926306&kclid=2837cad3-10e0-4790-bd7c-ce22f6926306&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhuDu_9nR2wIVwySGCh3J8w4KEAQYCyABEgKoWvD_BwE


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Can you get everyone to get those? That would be pretty great.

John


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I don't know if anyone else will get them J4? Maybe it will catch on just because there's almost zero bugs... It's warm and humid tonight and the old light would have drawn in dozens. I saw two and the new led bulb is brighter too.


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The nighttime sky on the OBX is can be pretty dark in many areas, clearly revealing the Milky Way and stars that you will never see in most metropolitan areas. Pea Island and Carova are quite dark and are well worth a look on moonless nights. Unfortunately, many people, especially renters, often leave their unshielded outdoor lights on all night. Moreover, the new LED lights are especially bad for light pollution. I live near a shopping center that lights up the whole area all night long and I also have neighbors with intense LED lights that they frequently leave on all night. As an amateur astronomer, I find this especially frustrating. I'm grateful that this issue is starting to get some public attention.

There is a wealth of information on the subject from the International Dark-Sky Association at the link below.



darksky.org/


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I’m very interested in these. Do they still provide enough illumination for decks and front doors or are they noticeably dimmer/weaker?


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I’m very interested in these. Do they still provide enough illumination for decks and front doors or are they noticeably dimmer/weaker?

Sandglass


I have installed just one so far next to a garage side entry door, the others are due to arrive today. So for now, I can speak about that one. The bulb is a 5w LED, the bottom of the shade is about 70" above the ground and it puts out about a 10 foot radius of direct bright light, and maybe another 10 feet of useful reflected light, so a 20' radius in total. It is not at all dimmer or weaker, really the opposite is true because 1) all of the light produced is directed downward, and 2) your pupils are not contracted because there is no direct line of sight to the glaring bulb itself. I started out with an 8w LED and switched down to a 5w LED to reduce the reflected light radius. My post lamp was/is the biggest source of glare, trying to light up the driveway and sidewalk with too many watts. So that one will probably make the biggest difference when I switch it out.


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Greg - glad for you. Just a thought:
Security is a big part of enjoying your vacation and/or home without losing stuff. Adequate lighting deters thieves. I am sure there is a balance here between security and night sky enjoyment. But when a cooler, or chairs, or rods, or a kayak disappears, or someone goes through your vehicle, you may feel differently. Vacationers are often less likely to secure property as they would at home. Thieves know this. Discussions with the Sheriff and IFP crime reports bear this out.


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I hear you Hatterasnc. I don't see this type of lighting as inviting crime. It's just as bright without the glare. Look at a light will a ball cap on to block the bulb. It's sort of like that, but there is still plenty of reflected light that bounces around. It's not like a theater spotlight with a sharp shadow line. There's just no direct light above horizontal.


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Understand and agree.
It is frustrating when things leave in the middle of the night, so perhaps understanding a vacationers desire to leave lights on is completely understandable.


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I'll never understand how leaving a deck light on or even worse a floodlight or two on is a good thing. If you have something of value on the deck or in the yard, bring it in. A locked door works much better than a light, vacationer or not.

I used to be able to see Andromeda in my telescope easily, but now it's a struggle to resolve any of it. I of course don't blame house lights for all of that, but the senseless flood lights don't help. First world problems for sure, but I happen to live in a first world country.

In any case, Greg MD didn't even mention anything about security. He mention night vision, no glass to clean and less bugs as being a big plus for the new lighting. Seems like a good thing to me.

John


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John.
I understand and agree with you and Greg.
Just offering another perspective from experience.
Be well.



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John.
I understand and agree with you and Greg.
Just offering another perspective from experience.
Be well.

hatterasnc

Which is always appreciated, even if not said. Definitely keep posting, even when it's not the "PC" thing to do. We're way to PC now and I welcome frank and differing opinions. You're security point is as valid as ours.

Be well, also.

John