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Do You Think Another Civil War Is In Our Lifetime?

Do You Think Another Civil War Is In Our Lifetime?




THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT DONALD TRUMP!!!!!!!!
THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT DONALD TRUMP!!!!!!!!

Civil War definition: "a war between citizens of the same country."

I have never witnessed such SUSTAINED HATRED in my 62 years as what I've witnessed in the past few years.

Seems like we can no longer have opposing viewpoints without verbal or physical violence.

I am so grateful I live here and not the Washington / Baltimore corridor I grew up in.



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Fortunately I don't feel this way - unless I mistakenly turn on certain cable tv stations, thus I avoid them as much as possible.

Sometimes I think one could blame "it all" on the nonstop 24 hour "news" cycle...but I believe civil discourse has been sublimated by anonymous "social media" as well..not to mention the dearth of plain old common courtesy and "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" sorts of behavior.

Got to keep the faith and try to remember we're all in this world together.


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THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT DONALD TRUMP!!!!!!!!
THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT DONALD TRUMP!!!!!!!!

Civil War definition: "a war between citizens of the same country."

I have never witnessed such SUSTAINED HATRED in my 62 years as what I've witnessed in the past few years.

Seems like we can no longer have opposing viewpoints without verbal or physical violence.

I am so grateful I live here and not the Washington / Baltimore corridor I grew up in.


You can partially blame the internet and the 24 hour news cycle for that. To answer your question I do believe there is a possibility of it.


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Unfortunately our society is quickly losing the ability to listen to and respect other people's viewpoints when they disagree. When violence is used to protest free speech, as we are beginning to see, then yes civil war becomes a possibility.


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No I don't think we will have another civil war. For a couple of very important reasons. The loud voices of hateful rhetoric are not the majority of us. Most reject the hateful. The news media does want to highlight the negative but keep in mind that is the minority. We live in a democracy and the negative can be silenced and rationality can prevail. We all just need to speak the truth clearly and calmly and reject the minority of hate. I live in a place that helped keep these united states together. We are the only country in the world to have come though a civil war and out the other end whole. Lets not forget that we have a lot to be proud of and reject the noise coming from the minority!


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I have never witnessed such SUSTAINED HATRED in my 62 years as what I've witnessed in the past few years.


The Hatred going on between the two parties this time last year was horrible. I didn't like him too much but with Obama at least he tried to bring people together. Trump likes driving a wedge in. I've been an independent for many years, if nothing else it gives me a pretty good view of both parties


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I have never witnessed such SUSTAINED HATRED in my 62 years as what I've witnessed in the past few years.


The Hatred going on between the two parties this time last year was horrible. I didn't like him too much but with Obama at least he tried to bring people together. Trump likes driving a wedge in. I've been an independent for many years, if nothing else it gives me a pretty good view of both parties

The violence and hate started before Trump came around, part of the problem is trying to shift the blame on Trump.
Like him or not the problems were there long before he even decided to run for office.


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What's up with this thread about Trump? That wasn't very clear. smiley

We'll never have a civil war. Civil war is against the government, and our gov't has the capacity to put down any uprising short of whole states declaring war. Frankly they could work that out also, but the point is you'd never get a whole state full of people to agree on why they'd want to overthrow the gov't in the first place.

Civil UNREST? Already have plenty of it, and there's no sign of it going away in the near future. But unrest and war are different ballparks.


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Anything is possible but I doubt it. I don't think any of us alive now have the full perspective of how bad it has gotten in various areas at various times. Did you know that Kentucky had 2 state legislations at one time around the turn of the 20th century? The old one refused to give up when voted out LOL. No general civil war inside the state arose from that, which was a pretty severe constitutional crisis.

My only real concern is with hate crime legislation. I know that seems strange but bear with me: It is a step past intent or conspiracy (real ACTIONS preceeding a potential real crime), and edges into simple thoughts completely inside a person's head being a crime. If that gets expanded to wider political thought being a crime, that is the time to worry IMHO. It would immediately lead to arrests of political opponents and suppression of free thinking.... like this forum.

Purely political power moves like that made by the Socialist Front when they won power in 1936 is what finally precipitated the Spanish Civil War: stripping the church and wealthy people of land, arresting opposition leaders and exiling some others, then outlawing the Falangist Party pushed that country over the edge. Let us know if anyone thinks we are anywhere close to that; no hyperbole or melodrama, please.

Look at Venezuela if you want a developing recipe for civil war. The Maduro government pushing forward for constitutional changes are obviously for their power consolidation. Only the military being left controlled is preventing an open civil war there.


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The whole concept of hate crime is stupid! You'll never get to intent or what is in a person's head. Beyond that, it doesn't matter. Actions matter and bad actions get punished.


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I don't believe I will see a Civil War. Civil unrest we are seeing. I have no problem with lawful expression and protest. However, once the lawful part is eliminated, I am all for using the maximum amount of force needed to reduce the threat.


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Not on the northern banks or the island for now.
Just keeping it local issues and all, yknow?


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...to me...this is a local/national issue...in my sixty-eight years i have never seen such sour losers...my president is my president no matter who she/he is...the election is the election...to bad cable tv and social media has led our nation to this narrative...


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I have never witnessed such SUSTAINED HATRED in my 62 years as what I've witnessed in the past few years.


The Hatred going on between the two parties this time last year was horrible. I didn't like him too much but with Obama at least he tried to bring people together. Trump likes driving a wedge in. I've been an independent for many years, if nothing else it gives me a pretty good view of both parties


In my opinion, Obama did so much damage to this country it will be felt for a long long time. Everything about his politics was divisive. Rich vs poor, black vs white, democrats vs republican. It was horrible, he is horrible, and the real kicker was his speech where he commented "I don't know how we became so divided"


BTW- Not a big fan of any politician
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/14/opinion/sunday/eight-was-enough.html?mcubz=2

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-legacy-poll_us_569fde11e4b0fca5ba765452


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I watch very little cable or broadcast news. IMO cable news no longer reports unbiased news instead we get news shaped to fit some agenda. Ratings driven. I tune in to Hampton VA and Greenville NC news looking for weather updates but immediately get turned off by the constant reports of violence. Violence I don’t see here on the Outer Banks.

Is armed conflict here with the government possible? Look at Venezuela. That social experiment looked successful for years until the money ran out. People are suffering. Where are they headed? Here in the USA the last eight years saw those in power moving the USA towards socialization IMO. Whatever it’s called I would not see citizens lining up against government military troops. It would be more of what we see in Afghanistan & Iraq. Hit and run violence.

Like I said in my original post I’m grateful we are here and not in the Washington/Baltimore corridor we moved from. It took me almost 10 years to truly appreciate what we have on the Outer Banks.

Thanks for the responses.



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1. There are no clear geographic lines of division.
2. Most folks who talk tough, back down in person.
3. This thread is funny reading some of the responses.