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Best surf fiahing gear?

By: Bigguy
7/23/2019 6:11 PM

Curious about the best surf rod and reel combo out there for casting out past the breakers, been fishing a long time but even last year when I was at kdh, had some trouble getting out there, any ideas?

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By: J4yDubs
7/23/2019 9:59 PM

Well, I have a couple questions for ya first.

1. How often will you be using this gear? You can spend a bunch of money here, but if you don't use it very often I recommend against spending a bunch of money.

2. Why are you trying to cast out past the breakers? What are you fishing for? Just FYI, most of what you want to catch is right in or just past the breakers. Don't try to cast as far as you can. I know if doesn't seem right, but you want to be in the breakers or just past. You should be able to get there with just about any rig.

3. What size pole and what line and sinker weight did you use? Those will have more to do with how far you can get than the reel. I like using a 7-8 foot pole, but if you want some more distance, go longer. If you do want distance, make sure you use a heavy lead line or you'll probably just snap the line. You're most likely using an open face reel, so when you cast, it really doesn't have an effect on distance. The better reels are all about drag, bearings, and reeling in the fish.

So basically, I think you might be doing just fine as far as casting. If you are getting to the breakers or right after, that's where you really want to be. I've seen people wade out chest deep before casting and I just shake my head.

John

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By: Fossilridge
7/24/2019 7:14 AM

The options are endless and you can put down some big $$$ if you so choose. Call Hatteras Jack in Rodanthe 252-987-2428. They can hook you up. They modify reels and custom build rods specifically for distance...give them a call.

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By: Pickle
7/24/2019 8:25 AM

This is a very "Personal" questions with many thoughts. First I generally agree with J4yDubs answer. The Big Question is Why beyond the Breakers. Now that can be a complex answer, but most Summer surf fishing is done fairly close in. If there are big breakers in the Summer, you probably won't want to fish. Now the answer could be trying Shark Fishing or in the Fall at the Point for big Drum. I see the need only for two outfits in most seasons for most fishing. A 7 foot medium action spinning outfit to cast Trout Lures, nothing more than an oz. and an 8 foot heavier rod to cast bottom rigs with sinkers up to 3 ozs and possibly a Jig weighing an oz or remotely 2oz. If you have to use heavier sinkers for normal fishing once again it may be too rough or there is a strong "Lateral Current". Enjoy your fishing.

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By: Mstaszew
7/24/2019 5:22 PM

I agree with all of the above. I have a few heavers, but at the end of the day I've always had the most fun with my freshwater spinning outfits and caught more, quality fish. The best fighting fish I've caught thus far have been puppy drum in the 20"-30" range and they were always in the churned up white water between the breakers and the shore. They fight like TANKS on smaller gear and you'll be worn the frick out.

I've since bought an 8' one piece medium rod and a mid-range Penn spinning reel. It's very versatile and a lot of fun. It's also super convenient to grab and go when I want to wet the line for an hour. The big outfits are cumbersome and involve a lot of additional gear and prep time (shock leaders, expensive hooks and sinkers, etc.). At the end of the day I only catch rays, dogfish, and blues on my heavers anyway.

If you're set on a big rod/reel combo I've been extremely pleased with my Daiwa Saltist (20 or 30, can't recall) and Shimano Calcutta 400B. I use Tsunami rods at the moment and they've been good for what I use them for. I haven't invested $$ in higher end heaver rods, yet.

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By: John Bull
7/24/2019 11:14 PM

I'm still new to casting a "heaver" with a conventional reel too. I can't cast the thing straight and far to save my life, and I see everybody else cast to Bermuda with apparent ease. I guess I'll keep trying. You need, as I see it, rods to do four different things- something light (6-7') for casting for trout in the sound, something a little bigger for casting metal (7-9') in the surf for blues and spanish, a rod for standard bottom rigs with 3-4 oz. sinkers (7-10'), and then a 12' heaver for drum (and the sharks you will always hook into fishing for drum!).

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By: Rick
7/25/2019 11:46 AM

Look for a graphite rod They throw a lot farther then a fiberglass one. I use Daiwa rods some but my favorite is St croix . A little more expensive but worth it. I always prefer Penn Reels . They last a long time and parts are available at most tackle shops. should you need any . 11 ft rod will do anything longer isn't necessary, The ability to throw 6-8 oz is important too. Check your rod it will tell you how much it can handle.. Don't forget to use a shock leader with anything over 4 oz

Bottom line is the more you spend the better it can be.

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By: Staggerlee
7/29/2019 12:01 PM

I started coming back to the OBX a couple of years ago and purchased a 7 ft Shakespeare Ugly Stik to fish the surf. Each year has yielded only a couple of small mullet and I am starting to second guess my equipment and possible lack of ability. I used both blood worms and squid for bait.

I am contemplating something better, but it's not like I get to fish the ocean much.

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By: Old #art
7/29/2019 1:20 PM

You might want to consider changing your choice of bait. Blood worms are good for Spot and Pinfish if they are around, but the best thing I have found in all the years I have been down Shrimp !! Go to a seafood shop and buy the smallest fresh (no frozen) shrimp they have to offer- half pound will be more than enough.
Hook size is also important. No 6, long shank for the little ones and, and No 1's-long shank, for mullet and drum.(And sand sharks)
2-3 oz sinkers. Buy a couple of the 2-hook bottom rigs to put the hooks on.
Don't try to fill the hook up with bait. Small piece on the 6's and half of a shrimp on the 1's.
Good luck. Hang in there. Experience, trial and error, and bait in the water is your friend.

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By: Staggerlee
7/29/2019 4:08 PM

Thanks Old. I will change both the bait and hook size.

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By: Pickle
7/29/2019 4:39 PM

Mr. Old is on the right track, good advice that everybody should employ. Smaller hooks make a difference. For Bottom fishing I still prefer Bloods but they are so expensive. Shrimp will be great and cheaper and you will get many more baits. Scrap the Squid, unless you are Flounder fishing then you cast and retrieve small strips very slow right up to the shore. My first question is where do you fish and what time of day. I hope you don't fish mid day. Early morning or dusk is best. Next questions would be Beach Geography, Tides, Surf Conditions, Time of Year, Wind directions, Water temps and clarity. When Bottom fishing do you hold your rod or spike it? Big difference. Then you have to continue with thoughts on Lures. Trout and Puppy Drum take small lures under an ounce. If Blues are around small lures less than 1 1/2 ozs
It goes on and on . Have fun and save a fish for me.

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By: J4yDubs
7/29/2019 4:45 PM

Good advise. I usually get both shrimp and bloodworm, but the shrimp usually does better. Depending on the season, it's sometimes hard to get fresh shrimp, but frozen will do OK.

John

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By: Staggerlee
7/29/2019 4:57 PM

Hope I am not hijacking this thread.

Anyway, I fish early morning or at dusk right outside where we are staying- Corolla and Duck the past 2 years but Southern Shores this year.

When I was a kid I caught the most on the OB Pier so I may hit the Avalon.

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By: J4yDubs
7/29/2019 6:16 PM

What month are you fishing?

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By: Pickle
7/30/2019 7:22 AM

I have fished the Outer Banks since 1975, Surf, Boat, Pier and the "little bridge". I have run a Charterboat here for the last 20. I'm not going to talk about the Good Old Days which were 10 times better than now. I'm going to say that for the past 2 or 3 years Bottom Surf Fishing from Corolla to SNH has been poor. Spot are almost non existent, Croakers either tiny or poor, Flounder, Ha Ha. Sea Mullet have had their moments with some decent size and Pompano have surprised some anglers. For those wanting to have a fish fry, feed a house full of people forget it. Now don't get me wrong, Fishing is a sport that brings tremendous satisfaction to people. To many it's relaxing and great way to keep yourself amused or nowadays challenged. Simple rules for Summer Bottom Fishing with bait for basic "Pan Fish": Put in your time either Early Morning or Early Evening, Small Hooks, No Squid, No Mullet (Exceptions though), If a 2 oz sinker won't hold forget it, hold your rod even if in a chair, stay away from swimmers or go home, Incoming water best, fish the sloughs, Lastly, DO NOT OVER CAST. Save a fish for me.

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By: Staggerlee
7/30/2019 9:14 AM

What month are you fishing?

J4yDubs


August- in about 3 weeks.

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