Cape Point closed

By: hatterasnc
5/23/2020 11:19 AM

Effective today for a pair of oystercatchers. There haven't been any plovers yet this year, I think they finally gave up and found a new phantom bird.

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By: J4yDubs
5/23/2020 5:30 PM

Oystercatchers? Sounds delicious.

John

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By: Indy
5/23/2020 9:46 PM

Oystercatchers are classified as LEAST CONCERN, but I guess the NPS needs a reason to kill the economy now that the Banks have reopened....

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By: kurthi
5/23/2020 10:36 PM

I hope the Oystercatchers are practicing social distancing, and wearing masks.

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By: Banks68
5/24/2020 10:37 AM

Oystercatchers are classified as LEAST CONCERN, but I guess the NPS needs a reason to kill the economy now that the Banks have reopened....

Indy


They have to keep us serfs in check and remind us who’s in charge.

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By: hatterasnc
5/24/2020 11:37 AM

This is why we pushed so hard for adaptive access from the new parking area behind the campground off the inside road (old ramp 45). For times like this; ramp 44 is impassible (either due to birds, erosion, weather, etc.), the access via the parking lot could be temporarily opened through a marked corridor to the Point. This adaptive approach was denied; I understand it was to placate the enviros who "would have a cow" if access was granted to the hook.

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By: SwampDuck
5/25/2020 4:24 PM

Several years ago, this thread would have exploded!

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By: hoi toide
5/26/2020 7:00 PM

Some old statistics in case anyone has forgotten or is unaware...



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By: lowtide
5/27/2020 7:27 AM

One has to wonder if future generations will watch as the NPS prohibits human activity to save the fire ant, the starlings, the murder hornet, africanized bees, the grackle, kudzu, mayflies....

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By: Old #art
5/27/2020 7:59 AM

Whatever the excuse. It will be used by the envirowhack's legal arm. the SELC. to file suit against "the people".

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By: dawiggs
5/27/2020 9:58 AM

Whatever the excuse. It will be used by the envirowhack's legal arm. the SELC. to file suit against "the people".

Old #art


Yes.....At "the peoples" (taxpayers) expense!

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By: dawiggs
5/27/2020 10:09 AM

This is why we pushed so hard for adaptive access from the new parking area behind the campground off the inside road (old ramp 45). For times like this; ramp 44 is impassible (either due to birds, erosion, weather, etc.), the access via the parking lot could be temporarily opened through a marked corridor to the Point. This adaptive approach was denied; I understand it was to placate the enviros who "would have a cow" if access was granted to the hook.

hatterasnc


" This adaptive approach was denied; I understand it was to placate the enviros who "would have a cow" if access was granted to the hook."..........
Agree!...That area is designated as "VFA", And if the Supt, puts a Corridor in place, the Enviros would have More than a Cow!

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By: hatterasnc
5/27/2020 11:15 AM

This is why we pushed so hard for adaptive access from the new parking area behind the campground off the inside road (old ramp 45). For times like this; ramp 44 is impassible (either due to birds, erosion, weather, etc.), the access via the parking lot could be temporarily opened through a marked corridor to the Point. This adaptive approach was denied; I understand it was to placate the enviros who "would have a cow" if access was granted to the hook.

hatterasnc


" This adaptive approach was denied; I understand it was to placate the enviros who "would have a cow" if access was granted to the hook."..........
Agree!...That area is designated as "VFA", And if the Supt, puts a Corridor in place, the Enviros would have More than a Cow!

dawiggs


the adaptive management approach was offered during the negotiations on the 2nd interim plan in 2008, the Final Plan in 2010 and the review of the Final Plan in 2015. It was rejected by NPS each time. The VFA does not prevent it, the VFA designation is the result of a poor plan. The plan is reviewed (open to Public Comment) every five years, happening in the Fall this year. This WILL be brought up again during the review in 2020 with this specific example of why it is necessary.

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By: dawiggs
5/27/2020 11:41 AM

This is why we pushed so hard for adaptive access from the new parking area behind the campground off the inside road (old ramp 45). For times like this; ramp 44 is impassible (either due to birds, erosion, weather, etc.), the access via the parking lot could be temporarily opened through a marked corridor to the Point. This adaptive approach was denied; I understand it was to placate the enviros who "would have a cow" if access was granted to the hook.

hatterasnc


" This adaptive approach was denied; I understand it was to placate the enviros who "would have a cow" if access was granted to the hook."..........
Agree!...That area is designated as "VFA", And if the Supt, puts a Corridor in place, the Enviros would have More than a Cow!

dawiggs


the adaptive management approach was offered during the negotiations on the 2nd interim plan in 2008, the Final Plan in 2010 and the review of the Final Plan in 2015. It was rejected by NPS each time. The VFA does not prevent it, the VFA designation is the result of a poor plan. The plan is reviewed (open to Public Comment) every five years, happening in the Fall this year. This WILL be brought up again during the review in 2020 with this specific example of why it is necessary.

hatterasnc


Agree and Understand the Flawed Process......Active member of NCBBA, also OBPA and CHAPA!

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By: hatterasnc
5/27/2020 12:28 PM


Agree and Understand the Flawed Process......Active member of NCBBA, also OBPA and CHAPA!

dawiggs


sorry dawiggs, a lot of what came before has been lost to history and to previous members who fought the fight, and still do. The post was intended for the uninformed, certainly not you. Thanks for your contributions and support.

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By: dawiggs
5/27/2020 3:52 PM


Agree and Understand the Flawed Process......Active member of NCBBA, also OBPA and CHAPA!

dawiggs


sorry dawiggs, a lot of what came before has been lost to history and to previous members who fought the fight, and still do. The post was intended for the uninformed, certainly not you. Thanks for your contributions and support.

hatterasnc


Yes, Good post.... Many groups and individuals have fought for Access to OUR beaches for ALL, Pedestrians and ORV's....

On a separate note> Today CHAPA offered a Reward for the recent Sea Turtle incident.

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By: hoi toide
6/9/2020 10:41 AM

I’ll leave this here...



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By: hatterasnc
6/9/2020 11:06 AM

wow Ames, that is a find. Thank You.

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By: hoi toide
6/9/2020 12:06 PM

You’re welcome! Thought you all might like it...



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By: hoi toide
6/9/2020 12:06 PM

You’re welcome! Thought you all might like it...



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By: Fossilridge
6/9/2020 3:31 PM

Awesome, thanks for sharing Hoi. Wonder where the plaque is now?

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By: hoi toide
6/10/2020 8:47 AM

A gentle reminder...



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By: dawiggs
6/10/2020 12:54 PM

A gentle reminder...

hoi toide


Thanks for the old Docs> Great Find!

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By: lowtide
6/13/2020 7:46 AM

I’ll leave this here...

hoi toide


Wow! I have enjoyed learning about the Phipps family, the Carnegie relationship, and the Bessemer Trust. Thanks!

One of the family homes is for sale.........needs updating though.
Click to follow link...

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By: hoi toide
6/13/2020 1:28 PM

I’ll leave this here...

hoi toide


Wow! I have enjoyed learning about the Phipps family, the Carnegie relationship, and the Bessemer Trust. Thanks!

One of the family homes is for sale.........needs updating though.
Click to follow link...

lowtide


Thanks for pointing THAT out! I so enjoy biographies and the history of our country. It’s fascinating!

Warning: Off Topic- I stumbled on a neat book on the W.A. Clark family this winter. Who?!? The Copper King.



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