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I can see clearly now.....

By: Laszlo
12/30/2020 7:30 AM

Replaced the reverse bulbs on my wife RAV and all I can say I wish I had done it sooner. These LED's must be 4X as bright as the original bulbs

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By: OceanBlue
1/2/2021 11:20 AM

Happy New Year! Hope your LED reverse bulb experience is better than mine...I had issues with one of the LED bulbs failing shortly after install. I just tried again with another set that were highly recommended for my 4WD (Toyota) lens "cut" ....

Anyway, YES, incredibly bright and white light...but what was weird was that the LED light cast, especially when rainy, created less "definition" than the OEM Halogen. It's hard to describe, but it was definitely harder to distinguish demarcations, driveway edge, etc. I wonder if the warmer/yellower K of halogen helped me "see" better? Kinda like the LeMans race cars of old with their yellow driving lights? I think the only way to really impact rear visibility is by cutting a pair of LED quad lamps (Black oak, Rigid) into the bumper.

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By: ultrahog99
1/2/2021 9:56 PM

Happy New Year! Hope your LED reverse bulb experience is better than mine...I had issues with one of the LED bulbs failing shortly after install. I just tried again with another set that were highly recommended for my 4WD (Toyota) lens "cut" ....

Anyway, YES, incredibly bright and white light...but what was weird was that the LED light cast, especially when rainy, created less "definition" than the OEM Halogen. It's hard to describe, but it was definitely harder to distinguish demarcations, driveway edge, etc. I wonder if the warmer/yellower K of halogen helped me "see" better? Kinda like the LeMans race cars of old with their yellow driving lights? I think the only way to really impact rear visibility is by cutting a pair of LED quad lamps (Black oak, Rigid) into the bumper.

OceanBlue

I agree. I see better with conventional head lamps. I am anti-LED now, since I need to wear reduced glare sunglasses at night due to the brightness over-kill. Sun

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By: Mstaszew
1/3/2021 9:50 AM

Happy New Year! Hope your LED reverse bulb experience is better than mine...I had issues with one of the LED bulbs failing shortly after install. I just tried again with another set that were highly recommended for my 4WD (Toyota) lens "cut" ....

Anyway, YES, incredibly bright and white light...but what was weird was that the LED light cast, especially when rainy, created less "definition" than the OEM Halogen. It's hard to describe, but it was definitely harder to distinguish demarcations, driveway edge, etc. I wonder if the warmer/yellower K of halogen helped me "see" better? Kinda like the LeMans race cars of old with their yellow driving lights? I think the only way to really impact rear visibility is by cutting a pair of LED quad lamps (Black oak, Rigid) into the bumper.

OceanBlue

I agree. I see better with conventional head lamps. I am anti-LED now, since I need to wear reduced glare sunglasses at night due to the brightness over-kill. Sun

ultrahog99


I felt the same about the few rental cars I had in recent years. All had high intensity lamps, I assume LED, but not positive and I couldn’t see as well despite it looking like more light was cast ahead of me.

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By: OceanBlue
1/3/2021 11:34 AM

Happy New Year! Hope your LED reverse bulb experience is better than mine...I had issues with one of the LED bulbs failing shortly after install. I just tried again with another set that were highly recommended for my 4WD (Toyota) lens "cut" ....

Anyway, YES, incredibly bright and white light...but what was weird was that the LED light cast, especially when rainy, created less "definition" than the OEM Halogen. It's hard to describe, but it was definitely harder to distinguish demarcations, driveway edge, etc. I wonder if the warmer/yellower K of halogen helped me "see" better? Kinda like the LeMans race cars of old with their yellow driving lights? I think the only way to really impact rear visibility is by cutting a pair of LED quad lamps (Black oak, Rigid) into the bumper.

OceanBlue

I agree. I see better with conventional head lamps. I am anti-LED now, since I need to wear reduced glare sunglasses at night due to the brightness over-kill. Sun

ultrahog99


I felt the same about the few rental cars I had in recent years. All had high intensity lamps, I assume LED, but not positive and I couldn’t see as well despite it looking like more light was cast ahead of me.

Mstaszew


Could be. I (and the OP) were referring to reverse lamps. That said, folks that convert halogens in a reflector (vs projector) housing to LED or HID are downright idiots...light goes everywhere and mostly into the eyes of oncoming traffic.

Many rentals (my experience, usually Tahoe/Suburban) are not optioned to LED or HID and run halogen incandescent. The later are just not as bright - perfect example is the current 4 Runner - little visibility with the standard incandescent/halogen; the upgrade version is waaay brighter.

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By: Laszlo
1/3/2021 5:43 PM

Happy New Year! Hope your LED reverse bulb experience is better than mine...I had issues with one of the LED bulbs failing shortly after install. I just tried again with another set that were highly recommended for my 4WD (Toyota) lens "cut" ....

Anyway, YES, incredibly bright and white light...but what was weird was that the LED light cast, especially when rainy, created less "definition" than the OEM Halogen. It's hard to describe, but it was definitely harder to distinguish demarcations, driveway edge, etc. I wonder if the warmer/yellower K of halogen helped me "see" better? Kinda like the LeMans race cars of old with their yellow driving lights? I think the only way to really impact rear visibility is by cutting a pair of LED quad lamps (Black oak, Rigid) into the bumper.

OceanBlue

I agree. I see better with conventional head lamps. I am anti-LED now, since I need to wear reduced glare sunglasses at night due to the brightness over-kill. Sun

ultrahog99


I felt the same about the few rental cars I had in recent years. All had high intensity lamps, I assume LED, but not positive and I couldn’t see as well despite it looking like more light was cast ahead of me.

Mstaszew


Could be. I (and the OP) were referring to reverse lamps. That said, folks that convert halogens in a reflector (vs projector) housing to LED or HID are downright idiots...light goes everywhere and mostly into the eyes of oncoming traffic.

Many rentals (my experience, usually Tahoe/Suburban) are not optioned to LED or HID and run halogen incandescent. The later are just not as bright - perfect example is the current 4 Runner - little visibility with the standard incandescent/halogen; the upgrade version is waaay brighter.

OceanBlue


Correct about using projector lamps. Yes, LED's need to used in the proper place. I did a side by side comparison of HID and LED in my Saab. It has HID's in which are great. The LED's was almost identical to the Saab's HID's and I kept them in place. However the HID's have a big drop after about 6 months and they are $60.00 each. I also wasn't sure how the Saabs headlight cornering amiimg would work with the LED's. Saab have a great feature of turning the headlights the direction you are turning under 25mph.......every auto should have that feature. You can actually see excellent going around a corner.

Long story short LED's work great but need to be used in the proper place.

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