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Southern Shores - "Build the Bridge"

By: GrandpaD
6/24/2022 7:14 AM

Southern Shores has filed as a "friend of the court" in the litigation to build the Mid-Currituck Bridge.

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By: xobx
6/24/2022 9:31 AM

You would think SS could come up with less expensive and quicker ways to control traffic through their residential streets.

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By: Laszlo
6/24/2022 12:25 PM

You would think SS could come up with less expensive and quicker ways to control traffic through their residential streets.

xobx


Maybe a nice 5 lane road running from SS to Corolla

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By: CoolBreezeKDH
6/24/2022 7:57 PM

Lol! Love it. Maybe, if you build a French Fry Alley, it will come to you.

Anyway...how long can the citizens be in favor of a project before it finally gets built? The horse is out of the barn up there. I love how regional activist groups come in and tell actual residents what's good for them.

Honestly, the bridge is the only safe solution for evacuating all points north of SS.

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By: Tim-OBX
6/24/2022 8:19 PM

Evacuations has never been a reason for the bridge. Never. Those storms do not sneak up on us.

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By: Lucypp1
6/24/2022 9:28 PM

Evacuations has never been a reason for the bridge. Never. Those storms do not sneak up on us.

Tim-OBX


No, most storms do not sneak up although quite a few unnamed Nor’easters can and bring with them power outages, and flooding especially in Corolla.

Have you been ordered to evacuate the N beaches? It’s anywhere from 6-8 hours to get to The Wright Memorial Bridge. Not fun!

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By: jfalba
6/25/2022 6:27 AM

Isnt this a case of over development of the northern beaches before adequate infrastructure like widening the road/a highway or a bridge in place? What happens to Carova once more access and more people stomping around? Bye bye wild horses? Coming off the Wright Memorial Bridge was always dont turn left and our rentals were always middle beaches or Hatteras island. Stayed in Duck for our honeymoon when that area was not crowded. Sure on "off" days we went to Carova beaches. Its a rough choice....out of season in the winter months what is it like?

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By: jfalba
6/25/2022 6:31 AM

Isnt this a case of over development of the northern beaches before adequate infrastructure like widening the road/a highway or a bridge in place? What happens to Carova once more access and more people stomping around? Bye bye wild horses? Coming off the Wright Memorial Bridge was always dont turn left and our rentals were always middle beaches or Hatteras island. Stayed in Duck for our honeymoon when that area was not crowded. Sure on "off" days we went to Carova beaches. Its a rough choice....out of season in the winter months what is it like?

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By: PaulOinMA
6/25/2022 6:32 AM

...out of season in the winter months what is it like?

jfalba


No issues in the off-season and winter. Friends are moving from Corolla after living there two years in part because it is so dead in winter.

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By: Dr.Shell
6/25/2022 7:41 AM

The traffic in the northern beaches is why I started going to Hatteras 20 years ago. I'll never go back and I keep my fingers crossed that that hoopla never moves south.

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By: johnbt
6/25/2022 7:52 AM

Same with me, but it was over 40 years ago.

(Actually, it was 1972 when 4 of us pitched a tent in the dunes at 3 a.m. after a long drive and two security guys in a truck threw us out. I think it was the Southern Shores property. I don't hold it against them most days.)

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By: xobx
6/25/2022 8:30 AM

Ditto for me. Loved Corolla, Whalehead, the 4X4 beaches since the '80's but after two trips in '19 & '20 when it took 3+ hours to get from Corolla to Kitty Hawk Saturday morning we said never again. Got evacuated several times. You just need to get out before they call the mandatory evac. Moved south where it reminds us of what we loved about OBX when we first discovered it.

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By: Beach Farmer
6/25/2022 10:51 AM

I blame ALL traffic problems on DUCK and the ridiculous cross walks and 25 MPH speed limit. It is a bottleneck that HAS to be dealt with. Building a monstrosity of a bridge costing millions and millions of dollars is NOT the solution. Duck should have overhead crosswalks and barricaded roads.

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By: Banks68
6/25/2022 11:15 AM

They can’t even get the lines painted on the jug handle bridge!! It will take decades to put in that big bridge if ever. We’ll all be long gone.

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By: Dr.Shell
6/25/2022 11:44 AM

The traffic in the northern beaches is why I started going to Hatteras 20 years ago. I'll never go back and I keep my fingers crossed that that hoopla never moves south.

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By: OBX is Paradise
6/25/2022 11:50 AM

Avoidance of the traffic is a personal option. Driving in the early morning hours, particularly before sunrise, usually makes the trip time the same in the summer months as driving anytime in the winter months.

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By: johnbt
6/25/2022 12:18 PM

This is on the Southern Shores town site in the history section.



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By: NightOwl
6/25/2022 2:35 PM

Duck should have overhead crosswalks and barricaded roads.

Beach Farmer


Yeah, no one has thought of THAT before!

Here's why overhead crosswalks are totally impractical:

1) You have to have a huge number of them, otherwise people will just cross the street in between them. Look at the beach road in Kitty Hawk. People won't walk 50 yards up or down the beach to use a crosswalk to dune crossover. They just cross the street and try to go over the dune or through someone else's property.

2) Over head crossovers have to be high enough to accommodate the highest legal road vehicle. It's not like overhead wires where the utility can come out at 3:00 AM in morning, take down the wire, let the truck or piece of construction equipment pass, and put the wire back up immediately. That height requirement relates to the problem in #3 below.

3) These overhead crossovers would have to be designed with gently sloped ramps to allow people in wheel chairs to get themselves up and across by themselves. I don't imagine it would be legal to build them any other way.. That takes A LOT of land on the side of the road. Both sides of the road actually. So you're talking about taking full lots in may cases.

Of course NCDOT could build underpasses, but those suffer many of the same problems (e.g. easily sloped ramps), and no matter how well the underpasses are lit, people don't want to use them at night. And there are of course drainage problems.

And barricaded streets? Have you looked at a map of Duck? The only access to many streets is off NC12. You can't turn down Street A, go to Cross Street 1, and go north to Street D. You can't barricade streets and still have homes on those streets accessible to renters and residents.

Believe it or not, serious, knowledgeable people have thought about these problems at length. There are good reasons they won't work.

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By: Beach Farmer
6/25/2022 2:47 PM

Duck should have overhead crosswalks and barricaded roads.

Beach Farmer


Yeah, no one has thought of THAT before!

Here's why overhead crosswalks are totally impractical:

1) You have to have a huge number of them, otherwise people will just cross the street in between them. Look at the beach road in Kitty Hawk. People won't walk 50 yards up or down the beach to use a crosswalk to dune crossover. They just cross the street and try to go over the dune or through someone else's property.

2) Over head crossovers have to be high enough to accommodate the highest legal road vehicle. It's not like overhead wires where the utility can come out at 3:00 AM in morning, take down the wire, let the truck or piece of construction equipment pass, and put the wire back up immediately. That height requirement relates to the problem in #3 below.

3) These overhead crossovers would have to be designed with gently sloped ramps to allow people in wheel chairs to get themselves up and across by themselves. I don't imagine it would be legal to build them any other way.. That takes A LOT of land on the side of the road. Both sides of the road actually. So you're talking about taking full lots in may cases.

Of course NCDOT could build underpasses, but those suffer many of the same problems (e.g. easily sloped ramps), and no matter how well the underpasses are lit, people don't want to use them at night. And there are of course drainage problems.

And barricaded streets? Have you looked at a map of Duck? The only access to many streets is off NC12. You can't turn down Street A, go to Cross Street 1, and go north to Street D. You can't barricade streets and still have homes on those streets accessible to renters and residents.

Believe it or not, serious, knowledgeable people have thought about these problems at length. There are good reasons they won't work.

NightOwl


Whoa sounds like you got your little panties in a bind over that one....So a multi million dollar Bridge across the sound is less of an engineering feat than figuring out cross walks and pedestrian traffic in Duck. OK How much private land do you think will be affected by a massive 4 lane bridge? ...and side walks with railings really aren't cutting edge technology.

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By: NightOwl
6/25/2022 3:13 PM

So a multi million dollar Bridge across the sound is less of an engineering feat than figuring out cross walks and pedestrian traffic in Duck

Beach Farmer


Engineering feat? Really? There are two bridges across the sound, one across Oregon Inlet, and the Jug Handle Bridge. I think the engineers might possibly be able to design one more bridge. Actually, they pretty much had it done four years ago.

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By: Beach Farmer
6/25/2022 3:18 PM

So a multi million dollar Bridge across the sound is less of an engineering feat than figuring out cross walks and pedestrian traffic in Duck

Beach Farmer


Engineering feat? Really? There are two bridges across the sound, one across Oregon Inlet, and the Jug Handle Bridge. I think the engineers might possibly be able to design one more bridge. Actually, they pretty much had it done four years ago.

NightOwl
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Oh yeah, so much easier and cost effective to run miles of suspended bridge over a huge body of water and though large tracks of private property than it is to put up some cross walks and run accessible electrical conduit with some railed side walk. You're a genius. Ever actually build anything in your life pal?

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By: NightOwl
6/25/2022 3:26 PM

Your a genius

Beach Farmer

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By: Beach Farmer
6/25/2022 3:29 PM

Y

our a genius

Beach Farmer

NightOwl



OH, you me got Mrs. Beezly McSpelling Bee! Is that all you got though? Really, kinda weak. We were talking about engineering and you turned on your Grammarly app. ..anything else?

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By: Alexy
6/25/2022 5:03 PM

A bridge is a permanent solution for a temporary problem.
After the 10 weeks of peak tourist traffic the issue goes away.
NC has already bought the land on the east side and in true NC political tradition the bank holding company bought the property
(Northeastern North Carolina Properties LLC, a division of Towne Bank) then flipped it for a great proft back in 2015
It will also be a toll road as planned since the estimated cost was to be paid 80% by bonds and the tolls.

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By: johnbt
6/25/2022 5:12 PM

They could follow Ocracoke's lead.



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