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PSA for those fishing the sound

By: troutslayer
8/15/2022 5:07 PM

This PSA is intended NOT for the fishermen who actually know what they are doing (like most of the posters here), but for the newbies who don't know any better (often not their fault) AND for supposedly experienced but increasingly ridiculous googans who seem to be multiplying quickly...

As I mentioned in my previous report, I broke off a LOT of jigheads during our 2 week vacation. Partly because, well, that's fishing. Partly because I was often fishing from land, where it is harder to unsnag a lure. Partly because I was fishing some very heavily fished spots where lots of snags exist. Even so, the number of break offs was utterly insane. The number of snags in my usual spots is completely ridiculous, and much (not all) of it could be prevented by using some common sense, which is a rare commodity it seems. Which brings me to my rant...I feel there are some rules that should be posted at the most popular spots for the shore-bound in the sounds (e.g. Little Bridge, Baum Bridge, etc.)
1. Unless you are fishing the inlets with strong current, there is NOWHERE in the sounds that requires over 1 oz to hold bottom. so please, PLEASE do not lob out 4 oz pyramid sinkers on a hi lo rig just to catch 4 inch fish that weigh less than your rig. Those heavy weights get snagged more often, then the line gets broken, which creates a new snag that everyone else snags, and the whole thing becomes an underwater monstrosity, that I eventually hook. (side note...even on the windiest days, I can usually hold bottom with 1/2 or 3/4 oz...even though I rarely throw anything other than artificial...)
2. If fishing soft plastics, you don't need a jig head over 1/4 oz. Period. Heavier might get you casting distance, but if you're fishing the sound from the popular spots listed above, you're fishing less than 5 ft deep 99% of the time. A jig head over 1/4 oz is overkill at that depth, and actually will make your presentation less realistic. If you're wading, you're obviously fishing shallow. Even 1/4oz might be overkill then.
3. Throwing metal in the sound? Fine. But you don't need anything over about 1/2 oz. Anything heavier will go straight to the bottom, and you will break off. Same for Gotcha plugs. Last summer a teenager hotshot showed up at Little Bridge with the standard 1 oz Gotcha tied on. I told him bad idea, he'd break off within a few casts. He didn't listen. I was wrong. He hung up and broke off on his first vertical drop off the bridge.
4. Since you don't need those heavy weights to fish the sound, ditch the surf rods, leave them on the beach. My oh my, there should be a 7 or 8 foot rod length limit at the Baum bridge pier. And those morons with a surf rod at the Little Bridge? I'm surprised they don't hit cars on their backcast.
5. Use appropriate line. You do not need 50 lb mono or 100 lb braid for the sound. Because when you break off one of the aforementioned overkill rigs, your extra heavy line makes the new snag even worse for everyone.
6. If you have to break off a rig, do it the right way. Point your rod directly at the snag, cup the reel OR tighten the drag, and pull backwards until it breaks. This will usually ensure it breaks at your know (or leader knot, if you have one).
7. Please, only have out a reasonable number of lines if bottom fishing. Yeah, I know you got to the Baum or bebop pier first, but there's not need to have out 6 lines. Seriously, it's just a d- move. A couple is plenty.
8. The stupidity I'm describing is not limited just to tourons...it's locals, too.
9. If you know someone who works in one of the tackle shops, please ask them to help educate the newbies, and not just sell them stuff. If possible.
10. The above does not apply to all soundside scenarios, but most. The inlets/Bonner Bridge pier are obvious exceptions....probably a few others, too, that I can't think of.

So please, above all, use some common sense. Match your gear to the species you are targeting or likely to catch, and to the depth and lack of current that epitomizes most of the Roanoke and Croatan sounds.

OK, rant over. Sorry, had to get that out. I hate breaking off tackle because, well, the jig heads I use are a little pricey (and some are impossible to find in saltwater tackle shops), but also I care about the environment and don't like leaving lead in the water if I can avoid it. And a lot of it could be avoided if people would heed some basic wisdom.

And as said before, not aimed at anyone here...

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By: 6Jdad
4/15/2023 8:55 AM

As a noob to sound fishing, I appreciate the advice! It seems like I can approach fishing in the sound from my kayak similarly to how I would fish our small lakes in Ohio...
Question, if I'm surf fishing from our rental (Hatteras) and kayak fishing in the sound, am I going to need 2 licenses?

Thanks

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By: troutslayer
4/15/2023 12:35 PM

If you're staying in Hatteras, then you're talking Pamlico sound. In that case...No, the sound is considered saltwater until you get way over into the creeks on the western side (on the mainland).

It gets a little trickier when you get up toward the Albemarle and Currituck sounds.

Take a look at this map from NC fisheries. Check the box to only show the demarcation between coastal, joint, and inland fisheries.

Click to follow link...

But to be clear, you only need the SW license.

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By: troutslayer
4/15/2023 12:46 PM

Also, sound fishing for trout/drum is basically bass fishing. Depending on time of year, all you really need are some grubs/paddle tails, maybe shrimp imitations, and some jerkbaits/twitchbaits like mirrolures. (topwaters if you get out early enough). Gulp is most popular, but I like Z Man since they withstand crabs/blues/pinfish, etc. much better.

And watch out for the wind. Depending on direction, even a moderate breeze (less than 10 mph...pretty manageable for most yakkers) can whip up chop on the sounds.

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By: Jighead
4/18/2023 7:26 PM

Also, sound fishing for trout/drum is basically bass fishing. Depending on time of year, all you really need are some grubs/paddle tails, maybe shrimp imitations, and some jerkbaits/twitchbaits like mirrolures. (topwaters if you get out early enough). Gulp is most popular, but I like Z Man since they withstand crabs/blues/pinfish, etc. much better.

And watch out for the wind. Depending on direction, even a moderate breeze (less than 10 mph...pretty manageable for most yakkers) can whip up chop on the sounds.

troutslayer


I am a big fan of saltwater assassins. That said, the zmans definitely hold up longer when the small blues are around. I tend to like the color combinations of the assasins and frequently order them direct from the company. For jigheads I am all over the zman trout eye jigheads! Love the eye colors available in 1/4 oz, 3/16 oz and 1/8 oz depending on the wind.

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By: Alexy
4/18/2023 9:08 PM

If you are targeting trout try fishbites. They hold up well on repeated casts and hits.
I 2nd the rod choices a medium action 7ft bass rod will cover about everything soundside other than if you are fishing the inlets.

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By: Mstaszew
4/19/2023 6:00 PM

I headed down with the kayak to the sound in Buxton today and picked up 3 trout. The first was my first real bite of the year and it was a 26” 5.65 lb stud trout, I caught 2 more about 18-19 and missed a 4th bite. I snagged a cownose ray that I had to break off. There were thousands of them out there spawning I guess. A little slow on bites, but that big one had me weak in the knees I won’t lie. All on popping cork. Saturday and Sunday I fished in Nags Head and had no takers.



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By: lowtide
4/21/2023 8:09 AM

Great thread! I hope to get back down to Hatteras in a few weeks and contribute to this thread. I'm an old guy, been fishing Hatteras (offshore, inside and surf) since the 60's, and enjoy wading and casting for puppies on the backside with light tackle. I appreciate the minimalist approach now after decades of hauling too much gear. A 7' rod, pocket knife, forceps, and a handful of fake bait (plastics and fishbites) is all that I need now......no coolers, ice, cast nets, buckets, chairs, cutting boards, rod holders. etc.
Anyway, I enjoy reading about fishing successes and failures, and hope you guys continue to post reports and pics! Fish

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