Try your own advice. Arrogant wind bag.

Yippee, you are down to seven words. Ya see, in 7 words you have let your thoughts known vs hundreds that have to be tossed aside to get to the "meat" of your posts.

My hope is that you and the squid will attend the NPS scoping meetings (y'all are going to be there aren't you?) to let your thoughts known. BTW I doubt Supt. Hallic is interested in hearing about what you and the squid think of me and your trash pickup will not hold his attention, but should that be the way it is I am sure he will take it in stride.

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Oh yes Dennis, I'm not sure I'll attend the Hatteras meeting, but I know Larry Hardham and Bob Davis will be there. Both are full time residents of the Island you visit on occasion. Both could run you in circles with their knowledge of turtles and will hold the fort just fine. If I don't attend I will certainly submit my comments via mail.
Now don't you have some skeletons or speeders to chase?

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Oh yes Dennis, I'm not sure I'll attend the Hatteras meeting, but I know Larry Hardham and Bob Davis will be there. Both are full time residents of the Island you visit on occasion. Both could run you in circles with their knowledge of turtles and will hold the fort just fine. If I don't attend I will certainly submit my comments via mail.
Now don't you have some skeletons or speeders to chase?

I have listened to them both talk about orv access. A couple of points worth considering, but mostly not.

Yeah, I know that you cannot take time to attend and listen to and discuss current issues at CHNS at the NPS scoping meetings (not sure ya say ) because you would rather save that time for fishing, boating swimming etc. which is fine by me, but for you to think that anyone believes your faux concern for nesting threatened shorebirds and threatened and endangered sea turtles belongs in your talk the talk not walk the walk category.

The canopy and beach junk is being addressed and the NCHP and Dare County Sheriff's Dept is taking care of those who break the speeding laws and that makes me smile ... hows about you?

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Oh yes Dennis, I'm not sure I'll attend the Hatteras meeting, but I know Larry Hardham and Bob Davis will be there. Both are full time residents of the Island you visit on occasion. Both could run you in circles with their knowledge of turtles and will hold the fort just fine. If I don't attend I will certainly submit my comments via mail.
Now don't you have some skeletons or speeders to chase?

I have listened to them both talk about orv access. A couple of points worth considering, but mostly not.

Yeah, I know that you cannot take time to attend and listen to and discuss current issues at CHNS at the NPS scoping meetings (not sure ya say ) because you would rather save that time for fishing, boating swimming etc. which is fine by me, but for you to think that anyone believes your faux concern for nesting threatened shorebirds and threatened and endangered sea turtles belongs in your talk the talk not walk the walk category.

The canopy and beach junk is being addressed and the NCHP and Dare County Sheriff's Dept is taking care of those who break the speeding laws and that makes me smile ... hows about you?

I haven't had the pleasure of hearing them, but I did read their entire report on Turtle protocol at CHNSRA. (You can find the link on The Island Free Press) It seems that the nesting success of threatened Turtle species could be greatly increased if certain nests were relocated after being located. Certainly you would be in agreement with that, wouldn't you? Of course that may open corridors to ORV use that have previously been closed by nest to water closures, but that would be a small price for you to pay for greater hatching success, right?

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Oh yes Dennis, I'm not sure I'll attend the Hatteras meeting, but I know Larry Hardham and Bob Davis will be there. Both are full time residents of the Island you visit on occasion. Both could run you in circles with their knowledge of turtles and will hold the fort just fine. If I don't attend I will certainly submit my comments via mail.
Now don't you have some skeletons or speeders to chase?

I have listened to them both talk about orv access. A couple of points worth considering, but mostly not.

Yeah, I know that you cannot take time to attend and listen to and discuss current issues at CHNS at the NPS scoping meetings (not sure ya say ) because you would rather save that time for fishing, boating swimming etc. which is fine by me, but for you to think that anyone believes your faux concern for nesting threatened shorebirds and threatened and endangered sea turtles belongs in your talk the talk not walk the walk category.

The canopy and beach junk is being addressed and the NCHP and Dare County Sheriff's Dept is taking care of those who break the speeding laws and that makes me smile ... hows about you?

I haven't had the pleasure of hearing them, but I did read their entire report on Turtle protocol at CHNSRA. (You can find the link on The Island Free Press) It seems that the nesting success of threatened Turtle species could be greatly increased if certain nests were relocated after being located. Certainly you would be in agreement with that, wouldn't you? Of course that may open corridors to ORV use that have previously been closed by nest to water closures, but that would be a small price for you to pay for greater hatching success, right?

First of all, I do not need, want or use the IFP for any information about issues at CHNS. The IFP has been and probably still is always on the slant of ORV access.

Secondly, Since the gentlemen you listed above are pro ORV access at CHNS advocates I have no doubt that they want the sea turtle protocals changed to the ORV advantage.

The NPS at CHNS has and does relocate sea turtle nests. There are currently 272 sea turtle nests at CHNS for the 2015 nesting season and of that number 220 are in situ and 52 have been relocated ... that is 19 percent yes?

I know that you, Larry H. and Bob D would like to have the sea turtle nests relocated for the wants of ORVers access and are pushing for that; however the relocation of sea turtle nests at CHNS follow the protocals of the NCWRC and thankfully that does meet the criteria for your wants for relocation.

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Well I suppose that answers my question.
With that attitude, I guess you'll never know........
But I suspect it's not about the Turtles, it's about shutting down all of the beaches so only the select few can use them.

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Well I suppose that answers my question.
With that attitude, I guess you'll never know........
But I suspect it's not about the Turtles, it's about shutting down all of the beaches so only the select few can use them.

YOU ARE RITE! It is not about the turtles, it is about the ORVers who believe that the beaches are only for their use and only their few should use them.

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^^ do you really think that ORV users think that way?
None I know.

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^^ do you really think that ORV users think that way?
None I know.

Of course not, Judy.
But if fits the anti ORV narrative he's creating, so it's ok.

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Well I suppose that answers my question.
With that attitude, I guess you'll never know........
But I suspect it's not about the Turtles, it's about shutting down all of the beaches so only the select few can use them.

YOU ARE RITE! It is not about the turtles, it is about the ORVers who believe that the beaches are only for their use and only their few should use them.

Is this ignorant position shared by the NEST organization and its volunteers or is it just you?

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^^ do you really think that ORV users think that way?
None I know.

Ahhhhhhhhhh a rhetorical question ... if it wasn't so then just why would this issue even be discussed on and on and on. Why would the NPS be holding scoping meetings? Why were there neg/reg meetings. Why did CHAPA sue the NPS? Why is there talk of relocating sea turtle nests to accommodate ORV use? Why is there talk of reduction of enclosures for nesting shore birds?

Naw it ain't about the birds and turtles ... it is about how much those species can be squeezed to accommodate ORV use.

Now, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee don't tell me it is about ped use at CHNS, because we all know (we do don't we) that is a smoke screen for more ORV access.

The words of some of the pro ORV access at CHNS posters on this cesspool make me ashamed to admit I own an ORV.

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Well I suppose that answers my question.
With that attitude, I guess you'll never know........
But I suspect it's not about the Turtles, it's about shutting down all of the beaches so only the select few can use them.

YOU ARE RITE! It is not about the turtles, it is about the ORVers who believe that the beaches are only for their use and only their few should use them.

Is this ignorant position shared by the NEST organization and its volunteers or is it just you?

Hey Matthew,

Is your twisted position of pro access by ORVs at CHNS shared by all that use CHNS or is it just you? It isn't about me silly boy ... it is about ORV use at CHNS.

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Well I suppose that answers my question.
With that attitude, I guess you'll never know........
But I suspect it's not about the Turtles, it's about shutting down all of the beaches so only the select few can use them.

YOU ARE RITE! It is not about the turtles, it is about the ORVers who believe that the beaches are only for their use and only their few should use them.

Is this ignorant position shared by the NEST organization and its volunteers or is it just you?

Hey Matthew,

Is your twisted position of pro access by ORVs at CHNS shared by all that use CHNS or is it just you?

What is my twisted position?

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It wasn't a rhetorical question. It was straight up. Thank you for your reply

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All I can say is that I hope as many interested people who are able to either attend and ask their questions/make their statements, or email/mail them in given this opportunity.

I wish there were a peace sign emoticon.

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^^ do you really think that ORV users think that way?
None I know.

Ahhhhhhhhhh a rhetorical question ... if it wasn't so then just why would this issue even be discussed on and on and on. Why would the NPS be holding scoping meetings? Why were there neg/reg meetings. Why did CHAPA sue the NPS? Why is there talk of relocating sea turtle nests to accommodate ORV use? Why is there talk of reduction of enclosures for nesting shore birds?

Naw it ain't about the birds and turtles ... it is about how much those species can be squeezed to accommodate ORV use.

Now, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee don't tell me it is about ped use at CHNS, because we all know (we do don't we) that is a smoke screen for more ORV access.

The words of some of the pro ORV access at CHNS posters on this cesspool make me ashamed to admit I own an ORV.

You may own an ORV, but you have never spent $120.00 for a beach (Or sound side) pass. Maybe you should get edumakated.

I guess you would rather other people pay for your beach access.

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^^ do you really think that ORV users think that way?
None I know.

Ahhhhhhhhhh a rhetorical question ... if it wasn't so then just why would this issue even be discussed on and on and on. Why would the NPS be holding scoping meetings? Why were there neg/reg meetings. Why did CHAPA sue the NPS? Why is there talk of relocating sea turtle nests to accommodate ORV use? Why is there talk of reduction of enclosures for nesting shore birds?

Naw it ain't about the birds and turtles ... it is about how much those species can be squeezed to accommodate ORV use.

Now, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee don't tell me it is about ped use at CHNS, because we all know (we do don't we) that is a smoke screen for more ORV access.

The words of some of the pro ORV access at CHNS posters on this cesspool make me ashamed to admit I own an ORV.

Wanna sell it?

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All I can say is that I hope as many interested people who are able to either attend and ask their questions/make their statements, or email/mail them in given this opportunity.

I wish there were a peace sign emoticon.

Thanks for your efforts on positing the information. I'll be there for the scoping meeting as I was for the previous scoping meeting, most of the reg/neg meetings, the DEIS and FEIS meetings ... Attending any meeting on this issue at CHNS is a real eye opener I assure you.

All these "screen names" on this cesspool allow comments about people that certainly would not hold up during a public meeting held by the NPS ergo few if any of the posters will be in attendance, but then some just do not understand that this forum really does not mean squat when it comes down to real input to any action taken by the NPS at CHNS as to ORV use does it?

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^^ do you really think that ORV users think that way?
None I know.

Ahhhhhhhhhh a rhetorical question ... if it wasn't so then just why would this issue even be discussed on and on and on. Why would the NPS be holding scoping meetings? Why were there neg/reg meetings. Why did CHAPA sue the NPS? Why is there talk of relocating sea turtle nests to accommodate ORV use? Why is there talk of reduction of enclosures for nesting shore birds?

Naw it ain't about the birds and turtles ... it is about how much those species can be squeezed to accommodate ORV use.

Now, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee don't tell me it is about ped use at CHNS, because we all know (we do don't we) that is a smoke screen for more ORV access.

The words of some of the pro ORV access at CHNS posters on this cesspool make me ashamed to admit I own an ORV.

You may own an ORV, but you have never spent $120.00 for a beach (Or sound side) pass. Maybe you should get edumakated.

I guess you would rather other people pay for your beach access.

Wellllllll there ya go squiddy, time and time again ya are trying to be part of my life (remember you aren't invited)... Where I spend my hard earned funds is NYOB.

Welllllllllll yeah, I would rather that others pay for my beach access (especially if that would be you), wouldn't you silly?

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Well I suppose that answers my question.
With that attitude, I guess you'll never know........
But I suspect it's not about the Turtles, it's about shutting down all of the beaches so only the select few can use them.

YOU ARE RITE! It is not about the turtles, it is about the ORVers who believe that the beaches are only for their use and only their few should use them.

Is this ignorant position shared by the NEST organization and its volunteers or is it just you?

Hey Matthew,

Is your twisted position of pro access by ORVs at CHNS shared by all that use CHNS or is it just you? It isn't about me silly boy ... it is about ORV use at CHNS.

Yeah, again, I am asking does NEST organization share this opinion that "it's is not about the turtles, it is about the ORVers who believe that the beaches are only for their use and only their few should use them." or is it just your completely ignorant position?

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Well I suppose that answers my question.
With that attitude, I guess you'll never know........
But I suspect it's not about the Turtles, it's about shutting down all of the beaches so only the select few can use them.

YOU ARE RITE! It is not about the turtles, it is about the ORVers who believe that the beaches are only for their use and only their few should use them.

Is this ignorant position shared by the NEST organization and its volunteers or is it just you?

Hey Matthew,

Is your twisted position of pro access by ORVs at CHNS shared by all that use CHNS or is it just you? It isn't about me silly boy ... it is about ORV use at CHNS.

Yeah, again, I am asking does NEST organization share this opinion that "it's is not about the turtles, it is about the ORVers who believe that the beaches are only for their use and only their few should use them." or is it just your completely ignorant position?

Let me quote Judyk: "do you really think that ORV users think that way?"

Hmmmmmmmmmmm those that can do, those that don't want to do or won't try to do like to think that they can successfully berate those that do. Does the shoe fit????

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Shouldn't you be out at the early bird special for dinner by now?

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