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By: loblolly
9/4/2015 10:23 PM

Any news on if or when the replenishment will begin/end in the area of Buxton around the motels, i.e. Lighthouse View? I am interested in trying to plan for next summer's trip - would love to do Buxton oceanfront but don't want to spend the money if we will be bombarded by noise and light etc., oceanfront.
Thanks in advance!

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By: loblolly
9/7/2015 3:16 PM

Wow, no one knows anything.........

We want to spend our vacation dollars on Hatteras Island, Buxton in particular. Can anyone recommend a link to up to date info on the beach replenishment?

I have been searching and have come across some info, but I think that a local might have a more accurate place for me to get info.

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By: hatterasnc
9/8/2015 9:33 AM

Island Free Press latest info - Head on down!

>Click to follow link...

"The project, which the county estimates will cost about $25 million, is on currently on schedule to start early next summer and be completed in August. Funding for the project is coming from a 2 percent occupancy tax that the county has levied for restoration projects in unincorporated Dare and its municipalities."

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By: loblolly
9/8/2015 9:55 AM

Island Free Press latest info - Head on down!

Thank you.....we are trying to plan next year's visit - potentially July - trying to figure out the impact of being there during that time.

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By: Sea Oat
9/8/2015 11:54 AM

I'll be surprised if the NPS let sand be put on CHNS beaches during turtle nesting season. Alright you can shoot the messenger now.??

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By: hatterasnc
9/9/2015 8:16 AM

I'll be surprised if the NPS let sand be put on CHNS beaches during turtle nesting season. Alright you can shoot the messenger now.??


Ready, FIRE, Aim! Laughing smiley

Thought about that as well. My opinion - since the affected area is not conducive to nesting, and has little/no history of nesting, it would seem that renourishment would actually create habitat, and based on Dave Hallac's remarks, it seems the NPS agrees (hence the EA vice EIS). Win for the highway (public safety), win for the property owners and visitors, and win for the habitat.

To the OP (loblolly), I would not let this project affect your choice of destination. It is quite the engineering marvel, interesting to watch and in the unlikely event they are working the section of beach you want to visit simply head a short distance away and observe. If you have a capable 4wd vehicle, you will be able to enjoy as much NPS beach as is open near Buxton (which hasn't been much in summer) or slide down to Frisco/Hatteras Village.

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By: loblolly
9/9/2015 10:46 AM


To the OP (loblolly), I would not let this project affect your choice of destination. It is quite the engineering marvel, interesting to watch and in the unlikely event they are working the section of beach you want to visit simply head a short distance away and observe. If you have a capable 4wd vehicle, you will be able to enjoy as much NPS beach as is open near Buxton (which hasn't been much in summer) or slide down to Frisco/Hatteras Village.
Thank you! ( Pm sent also)

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By: Sea Oat
9/9/2015 12:32 PM

I'll be surprised if the NPS let sand be put on CHNS beaches during turtle nesting season. Alright you can shoot the messenger now.??


Ready, FIRE, Aim! Laughing smiley

Thought about that as well. My opinion - since the affected area is not conducive to nesting, and has little/no history of nesting, it would seem that renourishment would actually create habitat, and based on Dave Hallac's remarks, it seems the NPS agrees (hence the EA vice EIS). Win for the highway (public safety), win for the property owners and visitors, and win for the habitat.

To the OP (loblolly), I would not let this project affect your choice of destination. It is quite the engineering marvel, interesting to watch and in the unlikely event they are working the section of beach you want to visit simply head a short distance away and observe. If you have a capable 4wd vehicle, you will be able to enjoy as much NPS beach as is open near Buxton (which hasn't been much in summer) or slide down to Frisco/Hatteras Village.


I agree with you on both counts but putting sand there might be bigger than Dave saying it is ok which means somebody might have to make some compromises.

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By: hatterasnc
9/9/2015 4:04 PM



I agree with you on both counts but putting sand there might be bigger than Dave saying it is ok which means somebody might have to make some compromises.


What sort of compromises? The sand will land on the beach. The higher ups at NPS have already signed off on the EA route, so it's not just the Supt. Not sure where you are going here...

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By: dennis in FBG-VA/KDH
9/9/2015 9:35 PM

I'll be surprised if the NPS let sand be put on CHNS beaches during turtle nesting season. Alright you can shoot the messenger now.??


Ready, FIRE, Aim! Laughing smiley

Thought about that as well. My opinion - since the affected area is not conducive to nesting, and has little/no history of nesting, it would seem that renourishment would actually create habitat, and based on Dave Hallac's remarks, it seems the NPS agrees (hence the EA vice EIS). Win for the highway (public safety), win for the property owners and visitors, and win for the habitat.

To the OP (loblolly), I would not let this project affect your choice of destination. It is quite the engineering marvel, interesting to watch and in the unlikely event they are working the section of beach you want to visit simply head a short distance away and observe. If you have a capable 4wd vehicle, you will be able to enjoy as much NPS beach as is open near Buxton (which hasn't been much in summer) or slide down to Frisco/Hatteras Village.


"My opinion - since the affected area is not conducive to nesting, and has little/no history of nesting,"

Please help me understand on what information you based your opinion.

The total recorded sea turtle nests at CHNS was 124 in 2014 and the nest sites are noted in the map below.

The total recorded sea turtle nests at CHNS is currently at 289 in 2015 and IMO I find it impossible for anyone to determine just where a sea turtle will decide to lay her nest at Cape Hatteras National Seashore.



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By: Alexy
9/9/2015 10:42 PM

the new plover

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By: Biggestsquid
9/10/2015 6:10 AM

There is currently a fair stretch of the beach in question where to lay a nest the turtle would need to climb over sandbags or borrow in front of them in the tideline.
Nourishment of this area will enhance the possibility for viable turtle and bird nests in the future. I don't understand why anyone would oppose placing sand on the beach to save property and protect the only evacuation route through Buxton heading north.
We send billions of dollars to countries that are ultimately enemies .... maybe we should take care of our own!

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By: wv gino
9/10/2015 10:18 AM

> I don't understand why anyone would oppose placing sand on the beach

It costs a lot of money for BN and if it all washes away in 6 months that might be a reason to oppose.

Guess we will see how long it lasts.


Gino

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By: hatterasnc
9/10/2015 10:22 AM


Please help me understand on what information you based your opinion.



Personal observation.

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By: 14 hours away
9/10/2015 6:14 PM

Seems as if many are negative towards nourishment. Comments of it will be gone eventually. True. It needs to be on a 3-5 year cycle to keep it up.

But here is my point to ones that say not to do it because it will have to be redone every so many years. In other areas of the state do they plow snow? do they only do it once? It is a continual process to keep roads open and people safe. What about rock slides, do they only fix it once and let those affected just deal with it when it happens again, no they fix it again.

It surprises me that the beaches are not nourished and the inlets are not open and deep. How simple of a plan I would be to keep the inlets and channels open and place the sand on the beaches. Yes it cost, but so does the current process that is no efficient.

taking care of the beaches is a positive to everyone including the birds and turtles. more beach equals more nesting areas.

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By: Biggestsquid
9/10/2015 7:37 PM

Seems as if many are negative towards nourishment. Comments of it will be gone eventually. True. It needs to be on a 3-5 year cycle to keep it up.

But here is my point to ones that say not to do it because it will have to be redone every so many years. In other areas of the state do they plow snow? do they only do it once? It is a continual process to keep roads open and people safe. What about rock slides, do they only fix it once and let those affected just deal with it when it happens again, no they fix it again.

It surprises me that the beaches are not nourished and the inlets are not open and deep. How simple of a plan I would be to keep the inlets and channels open and place the sand on the beaches. Yes it cost, but so does the current process that is no efficient.

taking care of the beaches is a positive to everyone including the birds and turtles. more beach equals more nesting areas.



There seems to be an attitude of many who enjoy the beach venue don't think they should contribute to the maintenance of it. I could consider the argument much more were it not for the fact that almost all of those doing the complaining are from areas requiring its own special economic assistance. The other thing that really frosts me is all of the money we throw down the toilet trying to buy foreign support when it is respect that we need and that can't be purchased. Let's take care of the homefront!

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By: jrsilverandgold
9/11/2015 1:04 PM

Yes and we need to quit invading other countries and being the world's policeman so we can take care of our own.

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By: loblolly
9/20/2015 2:57 PM

Let's see if this gives us any pertinent info:

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By: loblolly
10/6/2015 5:54 PM

Let's see if this gives us any pertinent info:

Click to follow link...

Hopefully all residents and businesses in Buxton will come out of this weekends battering by the sea OK......... the meeting on the 1st of Oct was cancelled, any news on the reschedule?

EDIT 10/7/15 Just saw the answer = 10/15
UPDATE: Meeting on Buxton Beach restoration rescheduled for Oct. 15

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By: obxmini
10/14/2015 3:04 PM

I hope those who attend the meeting will let us know how it went. And can't help but wonder if the draining of the Buxton Woods area near the lighthouse might not come up?

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By: Fortyfish
10/14/2015 4:05 PM

Unfortunately I am in Ireland for another month so am miss the mtg. but I suspect Bux Woods will not be part of the discussion. The state is not a party to the flooding. This is an NPS issue.

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By: obxmini
10/14/2015 9:04 PM

Appreciate your response, Fortyfish - and enjoy your time in Ireland!

Hopefully, we'll hear from some others on the meeting. I hear you about the NPS and flooding, but figured I'd add that in here in hopes of hearing some kind of follow-up.

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By: PGHsteelworker
10/14/2015 10:53 PM

That area is a mess right now. This night pic is north tower circle and circle tower on 10/12. I want to get back up there in the daytime to get a better look.



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By: loblolly
10/14/2015 11:48 PM

That area is a mess right now. This night pic is north tower circle and circle tower on 10/12. I want to get back up there in the daytime to get a better look.


Thanks for sharing the info - looking forward to some daytime pics. I am enjoying your photos and trip report, have fun!

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By: loblolly
11/3/2015 6:10 PM

Is there any news available from the Oct 15 meeting on Buxton Beach Replenishment? Any one attend that can shed some light?

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