Unfair NCAA ratings

Unfair NCAA ratings




Can anyone tell me why Duke is rated #1 with 13-1 and Michigan is rated #2 with 16-0 Also Virginia undefeated too What is it with Duke and their #1 ratings ALL the time. Disgusting.


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I don't get it either. I turn off the sound when Vitale is announcing a Duke game. Can't stand him and how much he is a Duke fanboy.

I thought this thread was going to be about how ND football fell to 5th in the final two Top 25 polls when their only loss was to Clemson, the national champion, in the playoffs. That has me scratching my head.


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The computer algorithms they use these days come up with a ranking that defies logic it seems. The less human it becomes, the odder it looks. Then there is the Coach's Poll where it's all human... UVA is number 1 there.


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Relax.
Nobody wins the Championship in January.
Most students haven't returned to school for spring semester.
Conference play is just getting started.
Rankings at this point are meaningless except for televised game ratings.
Relax.


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What hatterasnc said. Ranking are meaningless. Just a number by the name.

ESPN is especially bad with the Duke/Zion coverage. I won't watch that station(s) the day after Duke plays because I know that's all they will talk about. Oh well, their loss (viewer) not mine...

DickieV (DukieV now) used to be OK. I even have one of his books (signed) and it's pretty good, but he's jumped fully on the Duke train now and will not get off. He used to just be an ACC homer. The last 2 games I've heard him announce he said he wants to expand the number of fouls a player can get so that Zion can be on the floor more if he picks up 3-4 fouls! I kid you not. The sad part, one of those games didn't even have Duke playing!

I have nothing against Zion (now Duke, that's a different story). He seems like a good kid and it's not his fault. I don't even think he's the best player on that team. I'd pick RJ every day of the week over Zion. RJ must be pissed with this Zion lovefest.

There's no chance Zion's knees hold up to the weight he carries and the impacts their taking. Amazing athlete right now though. Whoever grabs him in the draft is probably going to regret it.

John


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As much as I can't stand Vitale and Rafferty, I think Walton is an even worst basketball announcer. Zero preparation for games and it shows because he talks about anything but the game. He is a terrible basketball announcer.

My favorites? Fran Fraschilla and Len Emore. Lots others I like, too.


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Relax.
Nobody wins the Championship in January.
Most students haven't returned to school for spring semester.
Conference play is just getting started.
Rankings at this point are meaningless except for televised game ratings.
Relax.

hatterasnc



I know, I know....they are just numbers & its only January, but it just irritates me when I see Duke #1 all the time. I can't relax!!They aren't meaningless either....they mean they think Duke is better than Michigan and that's not true!!!! And the coaches polls are even worse. ugh.


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One thing is for for sure, never try to argue who's better based on their Win/Lose record. That's even more meaningless than these rankings.

All that really matters is that you get to dance in March. Yeah, I guess conference champions mean something also, but it's really all about the NCAA Tournament. I love March and April!

John


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As much as I can't stand Vitale and Rafferty, I think Walton is an even worst basketball announcer. Zero preparation for games and it shows because he talks about anything but the game. He is a terrible basketball announcer.

My favorites? Fran Fraschilla and Len Emore. Lots others I like, too.

PaulOinMA


Bill Walton is the worst. There was a game last year where he and the other announcer engaged in this conversation (wording may not be 100% accurate, but you'll get the gist)

BW: "I play to my strength, going places where I’m not invited and not welcome.”
Other announcer: “like at this table?”

I'm not kidding. It really happened.


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As much as I can't stand Vitale and Rafferty, I think Walton is an even worst basketball announcer. Zero preparation for games and it shows because he talks about anything but the game. He is a terrible basketball announcer.

PaulOinMA

Don't get me started about Walton. I will either not watch that game or mute it. There is something wrong with that dude. I'm OK with Rafferty. I'm not a big fan of Doris though. She knows basketball, but has an axe to grind against certain teams. I like Jay Bilas and Jason Williams, even though they are both Dukies. They get it. Jason has been on a bit of a Zion Wagon lately though. His points make sense, but he can't see the other side.

John


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Dick Vitale will be 80 this year. He used to annoy me, but now he mostly mumbles and for the life of me I can't understand what he's saying. However, it is less annoying.

Speaking of books and autographs, I used to be in the insurance business a century or two ago. I was attending a meeting with a fairly small group of agents in Raleigh. We were told there would be a "special guest speaker" and it was worth our time to come. Nobody knew who it would be and out comes the one and only Jimmy "V." This was back in the '80s, before he got cancer. What a remarkable man. I've got his autograph.


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Ratings, smatings.
The best statistic is the score. It’s all that really matters at the end of the day.


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It will all sort out quite a bit during conference play in January and February.

Michigan is a very good team and doesn't have much competition in the Big Ten (aka Big 14) 'cept Sparty and maybe OSU.


The lovefest between ESPN and Duke/Coach K has been going on for decades.


As for announcers, both play-by-play and color....most are terrible these days. Call the game that is in front of you please! I usually turn off the sound when watching a game. Raff is still pretty good. Bilas has become unlistenable. But both of them are more color guys then play-by-play. For pure enjoyment I love to watch a late night PAC10 game and listen to Walton.



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The way to do it when the game is on the radio and TV is to turn the volume down on the TV and watch it while listening to the call on the radio. Radio announcers assume you can't see the game and are far better at describing what is actually going on. Unfortunately, the digital age has largely ruined this arrangement. Digital broadcasts (radio and TV) incorporate delays of varying times and the picture on TV and the sound on the radio is always off 30 or 45 seconds.


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Didn't know the delay between radio and TV is that much.

I used to have speakers on the porch so I could hear games when I went outside to have a cigar late at night. I can still see the TV in the den. I don't have speakers now; just used closed-captioning, if there's something I need to read to know what happened.

I don't mind Doris Burke. Debbie Antonelli is good, too. I also like Laphonso Ellis and Donny Marshall.

Funniest moment was when Marshall and the play-by-play guy sat on stools on the court for halftime with Drums of Thunder doing the halftime show directly behind them. They even joked about it when the second half started. Marshall said something like, "I'm so glad you told me the first question before halftime because I couldn't hear a thing you were saying." Theeth smiley

Try doing a halftime show with this directly behind you. Theeth smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXWMc6WBJSQ



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The conductor just about stole the show! lol


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Marshal and the PBP guy started the second half with "Drums of Thunder has left the building!"

My wife and I took a friend from SLC to a UConn game at the Hartford Civic Center in 2006. I went to get them ice cream sundaes at halftime. I missed this guy: Amazing Christopher. They said he was hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-uQtH2YIAU

He did Y.M.C.A at the UConn game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K66UsUQd_0w






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Have also seen Chinese unicycle plate lady at a UConn halftime show. Very 1960s Ed Sullivan Show. Very impressive. Theeth smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKD_vR5NFb4



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Red Panda! She is amazing. I've watched her at Carolina games. It's ridiculous what she can do.

John


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Kara Lawson is one of the best color analysts in my opinion. I actually know some folks who would not watch a college game she is on because she is a women.


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I like her. Rebecca Lobo, too.

Can't make up my mind about Pete Gillen. Good analyst. I just think he talks too fast. He did go to Fairfield University (I went there, too). smiley

Tim Welch is good.


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Go Blue! Just win and the rankings will take care of themselves smiley


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I like her. Rebecca Lobo, too.

Can't make up my mind about Pete Gillen. Good analyst. I just think he talks too fast. He did go to Fairfield University (I went there, too). smiley

Tim Welch is good.

PaulOinMA


Ooo, ooo, Pete Gillen, former UVA basketball Coach, and an all-around great guy. He just didn't have the magic touch Tony B. does. I was at an affiliate meeting where Gillen spoke. Afterward, they gave away prizes and I won a basketball with his autograph. He got fired a week later.


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I didn't know he coached UVA.

I recorded "UVA vs. UMBC: Bracket Busted." Haven't watched it yet. Probably not something UVA fans recorded. Theeth smiley

https://www.streakingthelawn.com/virginia-cavaliers-basketball/2018/11/19/18102538/ncaa-tournament-umbc-retrievers-virginia-cavaliers-1-16-upset-bracket-busted-cbs-tv



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Yeah!!! BLUE 17-0. Thumbs up Thumbs up