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Canceling Due To NJ Quarantine Oceanfrnt Avon 8/29

Canceling Due To NJ Quarantine Oceanfrnt Avon 8/29




Regrettably, my wife and I have come to grips that we should cancel our 8/29 week in Avon because of NJ's 14 day quarantine "law". Both our employeres know where we are supposed to go on vacation and quite honestly it wouldn't be fair to our co-workers for us to take the chance and go and keep it to ourselves where we went. I have been working from home since the middle of March and it looks like my company is starting to roll employees back into the office next week, I could be called back anytime. My wife has been back in the office for a few months already. Both companies would 100% enforce us to quarantine for the 14 days should we choose to go, because they quite honestly care about the well being of all their employees. We can't afford to lose 2 weeks salary each. So, I guess we put it off another year. We would apparently get back all the fees and there is no penalty if the house rerents. Its through Hatteras Realty. Its not a lot of money to lose in the grand scheme of things, but I'm not much of a gambler. It is a very economical Oceanfront 5 bedroom in Avon. My wife and I were getting it for ourselves only because it was reasonable. For the week of 8/29-9/5 its about $1180 ($1650 with all fees, cleaning and travel insurance , tax etc). Here's the link if anyone knows someone looking for that week. I think a 5 bedroom oceanfront will rebook quickly based on availability I currently see.

Click to follow link...

If this quarantine fiasco gets lifted and this house gets rented we may look to book another place last minute in mid-September. Otherwise, we wait another year for the OBX and spend a few days on the Jersey shore this year..... It coulkd always be worse! Thanks for reading, with my luck the quarentine gets lifted the day after the house rebooks lol.

MZ


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RE: Canceling Due To NJ Quarantine Oceanfrnt Avon 8/29




Homes have been re-renting quickly.


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I think you will find that place will re-rent quickly.




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I thought that your price was a typo so I went to the link and priced a similar week for August 2021 and that seems like a really good price for an oceanfront home. I doubt that'll be re-listed for long.


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I think you will find that place will re-rent quickly.

Bill



The real question is how long do I wait before I officially cancel it. Maybe wait a few weeks to see the NC trends or just do it and forget about it til next year.


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I thought that your price was a typo so I went to the link and priced a similar week for August 2021 and that seems like a really good price for an oceanfront home. I doubt that'll be re-listed for long.

Mstaszew


I would assume they would keep the same rate I booked it at, but you never know.


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I still don't get how a Governor can put something like this in place. You are more likely to catch COVID-19 spending a weekend at the shore in NJ. Best of luck to you, I hope it works out.


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Question for the OP, does your employer have a policy in place that states you must quarantine for 14 days upon your return from North Carolina? I only ask because the Governor's quarantine is technically a "recommendation" and is totally "self-governed" according the NJ Covid-19 site. I'm not sure an employer could enforce the quarantine unless it is a written policy.


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Question for the OP, does your employer have a policy in place that states you must quarantine for 14 days upon your return from North Carolina? I only ask because the Governor's quarantine is technically a "recommendation" and is totally "self-governed" according the NJ Covid-19 site. I'm not sure an employer could enforce the quarantine unless it is a written policy.

jameswestfal


My wife and I will choose to "self-govern" for the sake of and respect of our fellow employees and friends whether we agree with the quaramtine policy or not. I'm not about to get into a "you know what" match over a technicality with 2 employers who have been good to my wife and I.


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Heck of a house for that price! I can't imagine that hanging out there long before being re-rented.


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Question for the OP, does your employer have a policy in place that states you must quarantine for 14 days upon your return from North Carolina? I only ask because the Governor's quarantine is technically a "recommendation" and is totally "self-governed" according the NJ Covid-19 site. I'm not sure an employer could enforce the quarantine unless it is a written policy.

jameswestfal


My wife and I will choose to "self-govern" for the sake of and respect of our fellow employees and friends whether we agree with the quaramtine policy or not. I'm not about to get into a "you know what" match over a technicality with 2 employers who have been good to my wife and I.

Mike Zw


And I respect that, just curious if it is a policy or not. I'm not saying anything about your choice.


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Question for the OP, does your employer have a policy in place that states you must quarantine for 14 days upon your return from North Carolina? I only ask because the Governor's quarantine is technically a "recommendation" and is totally "self-governed" according the NJ Covid-19 site. I'm not sure an employer could enforce the quarantine unless it is a written policy.

jameswestfal


My wife and I will choose to "self-govern" for the sake of and respect of our fellow employees and friends whether we agree with the quaramtine policy or not. I'm not about to get into a "you know what" match over a technicality with 2 employers who have been good to my wife and I.

Mike Zw


And I respect that, just curious if it is a policy or not. I'm not saying anything about your choice.

jameswestfal


I have all been asked, via email, to inform our supervisors if we have left the NY/NJ area. No formal "written" policy.



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NJ spent a lot of effort getting their Covid-19 stats down. I would expect that they won't budge during the summer as NC is not trending well. We actually had to drop our rental in May as family members wanted to join us. It was a tense few weeks while we waited for the rental to come off the market. It took about three weeks to re-rent. I wouldn't wait. Pulling the bandaid off sooner, rather than later, will save you from some angst. I'm sorry you can't visit the OBX and I totally respect your sense of concern for your employers and co-workers.


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My wife has been a member of this board for a long time. I just joined simply because I find the topic nauseating and misleading.

Lets just make clear the problem in NJ Vs NC as it is today and over the past several months -

NJ total deaths 15,634
NC total deaths 1,533

NJ deaths per million population 1,760
NC deaths per million population 146

NJ active cases 83,824
NC active cases 30,677

NJ new deaths today 25
NC new deaths today 0

You can decide where you want to vacation. It's up to you. It's too bad that some governors and employers wish to make a difficult situation more difficult while not enhancing safety at all.


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I think you will find that place will re-rent quickly.

Bill


Yes, houses do re -rent very quickly, but you have to be first in the line.
Our cottage re-rented in less than 4 hours after a cancelation


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Beautiful house and great price! I would pick up your rental in a heartbeat if that wasn't our second week of school.


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I’m interested if the quarantine applies if you only go 1 mile into NC and then turn around. What if you just drive through the tip of it and never get out of your car. Does it matter if you are staying in a crowded hotel or a farmhouse secluded on 1000 acres. I hate governors making policy based on no science or extenuating circumstances.


RE: Canceling Due To NJ Quarantine Oceanfrnt Avon 8/29




Question for the OP, does your employer have a policy in place that states you must quarantine for 14 days upon your return from North Carolina? I only ask because the Governor's quarantine is technically a "recommendation" and is totally "self-governed" according the NJ Covid-19 site. I'm not sure an employer could enforce the quarantine unless it is a written policy.

jameswestfal


My wife and I will choose to "self-govern" for the sake of and respect of our fellow employees and friends whether we agree with the quaramtine policy or not. I'm not about to get into a "you know what" match over a technicality with 2 employers who have been good to my wife and I.

Mike Zw


Dude - my point exactly THANK YOU - its not about "can they enforce" as it is "why would you not do what is right". Hats off (mask on) to you for your consideration!


RE: Canceling Due To NJ Quarantine Oceanfrnt Avon 8/29




I’m interested if the quarantine applies if you only go 1 mile into NC and then turn around. What if you just drive through the tip of it and never get out of your car. Does it matter if you are staying in a crowded hotel or a farmhouse secluded on 1000 acres. I hate governors making policy based on no science or extenuating circumstances.


RE: Canceling Due To NJ Quarantine Oceanfrnt Avon 8/29




I’m interested if the quarantine applies if you only go 1 mile into NC and then turn around. What if you just drive through the tip of it and never get out of your car. Does it matter if you are staying in a crowded hotel or a farmhouse secluded on 1000 acres. I hate governors making policy based on no science or extenuating circumstances.


RE: Canceling Due To NJ Quarantine Oceanfrnt Avon 8/29




Question for the OP, does your employer have a policy in place that states you must quarantine for 14 days upon your return from North Carolina? I only ask because the Governor's quarantine is technically a "recommendation" and is totally "self-governed" according the NJ Covid-19 site. I'm not sure an employer could enforce the quarantine unless it is a written policy.

jameswestfal


My wife and I will choose to "self-govern" for the sake of and respect of our fellow employees and friends whether we agree with the quaramtine policy or not. I'm not about to get into a "you know what" match over a technicality with 2 employers who have been good to my wife and I.

Mike Zw


Dude - my point exactly THANK YOU - its not about "can they enforce" as it is "why would you not do what is right". Hats off (mask on) to you for your consideration!

Kai Avalon


Yes Ill do what is right for sure.... but I wanna go to Avon NC.... not Wildwood NJ! LOL Avon will still be there next year God willing.


RE: Canceling Due To NJ Quarantine Oceanfrnt Avon 8/29




I’m interested if the quarantine applies if you only go 1 mile into NC and then turn around. What if you just drive through the tip of it and never get out of your car. Does it matter if you are staying in a crowded hotel or a farmhouse secluded on 1000 acres. I hate governors making policy based on no science or extenuating circumstances.

Millie’s Here Now


No, if you are passing thru a state that is on the list you are all good. If you hunker down and spend some time in 1 of the 19 states heading up to NY,NJ or CT, thats a different story. It basically a Karma thing....



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We waited as long as we could, cancelling at the 45 day mark when our second and last payment was due. The house re-rented in 5 days. This was back in mid-May. I bet yours re-rents quickly.

We live in Western NY and, similar to you, our employers have set their policies to adhere to NY State’s policy (NYS, as you know, has been working in concert with NJ and CT and with proven results). We are both in healthcare, non-clinical positions, and honestly that adds a little more awareness as we need to respect the health not only of our co-workers but patients as well (not to mention family and friends).

Your attitude and outlook mirrors ours. We miss/postpone a vacation. Could have been out some cash. Oh well. But I think back to my mother and father, part of the Greatest Generation. Now they sacrificed. This pales in comparison.


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PA recently came down with that "recommendation" too. We are leaving for a week in KDH Saturday and it really threw a wrench into things this close to our trip. Luckily my employer is allowing me to get a COVID test when I come back and come back to work when/if the results come back negative. We have to come back a day early but at least we get to go.


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I'm in a similar boat with a planned mid-August vacation in KDH and coming from one of the NE states that has put NC on a quarantine list.

What I can't figure out is how close NC is to being off that list. Based on the metrics listed, it would seem like NC barely makes it. This is the criteria for being listed as an "impacted state:"

"The 14-day quarantine travel advisory applies to travel from certain states identified as those that have a positive COVID-19 test rate higher than 10 per 100,000 residents or have a 10% or higher positivity rate over a seven-day rolling average"

From what I can tell, NC's positive COVID-19 test rate is not higher than 10, per 100,00 residents, and it looks like the rolling 7-day average of positivity rate is right at 10%. I'm basing that on numbers here: Click to follow link... ("positive tests as a percent of total tests" which shows the rolling 7-day average as 10% as of the most recent date available, 7/12) and here: Click to follow link... (shows NC with 11,553 tests per 100K population and 826 confirmed cases per 100K population, which works out to a little over 7%).

Now, I could be misinterpreting the data here. NY/NJ/CT should be updating their lists of impacted states today, so maybe we'll see some movement.


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