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Possible Visitor Restriction Question

Possible Visitor Restriction Question




I'm seeing on several other forums that people are rushing to get here early today in case a visitor restriction order comes down from Dare Co. If that happens, will the rental companies and hotels let them check in?


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They have to or the renter is due a full refund.


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For COVID, nobody was kicked out. The bridge closure just prevented new people from arriving.

I thought weather events were evacuations and rental companies and hotels would require people to leave after they have arrived if an evac order is issued. Do I misunderstand?

Agree with GregMD, that if no order is in place at check-in time, they would have to be allowed in.

Although I suppose for AirBnB or other cases where you rent directly from the owner you might be able to stay.




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Most of the houses now have a late check in time. I think a lot of people are counting on coming very early and just hanging around and waiting to get in. If the mandate is issued at noon and check in isn't until four or five, I don't see why the companies would be obligated to admit them.


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Most of the houses now have a late check in time. I think a lot of people are counting on coming very early and just hanging around and waiting to get in. If the mandate is issued at noon and check in isn't until four or five, I don't see why the companies would be obligated to admit them.

notinobx


Pretty much this ^^^^ - I "think" folks are mixing covid w evac orders. If evac is issued and renter has not yet checked in I would seriously doubt the RF lockbox would be opened. If evac posted then insurance is triggered.





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This Pretty Much Sums it Up!




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For COVID, nobody was kicked out. The bridge closure just prevented new people from arriving.

I thought weather events were evacuations and rental companies and hotels would require people to leave after they have arrived if an evac order is issued. Do I misunderstand?

Agree with GregMD, that if no order is in place at check-in time, they would have to be allowed in.

Although I suppose for AirBnB or other cases where you rent directly from the owner you might be able to stay. Many people I have listened to or spoke with have a feeling they have been through a small wind storm and so they think a hurricane is just a bit worse, they soon find out it is really no fun and it is scary.

biketraveller22


Let's be honest and not just recite the normal stuff. An evacuation means guests need to leave and owners can stay because you can't be forced to leave if you own property here. They would like you to leave but they won't force it. After almost every storm I would see people check out after it passed and they would say how they stayed in the house. This goes back a few years when we used keys. Most of those that stayed would say things like, "I was scared to death" or "I wish I had left" or things like that. I have never been oceanfront during a storm, but I have been 70 ft away in Izzy and it was scary!!!!!!!!!!!!! But bottom line is some do stay.


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I was in an OF rental house for Hurricane Dennis in 1999. It was probably a low 1 and, at first, Dare did not order evacuation. It was harrowing! No power, howling winds for hour after hour, heavy Adirondack chairs slamming from one end of the deck to the other, ocean spray soaking 3rd floor windows and THEN we were evacuated. I swore I would never stay during another storm. Now we own a house (primary residence) that is not OF and the decision-making has changed a bit. We would likely stay unless it was a 3 or higher (maybe...).


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Dare county meeting as we speak


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This might be an odd question, but what would happen if they called an evacuation and then the hurricane ended up affecting Florida instead if it got weak enough? Say they call for evacuation tomorrow for visitors, and overnight it ends up that the hurricane is downgraded to a tropical storm that goes into FL coast with no impacts to NC as forecast? Would they lift it immediately?


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I heard mandatory evacuation as of noon today


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I heard mandatory evacuation as of noon today

bosoxtodd


Heard from where?


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I heard mandatory evacuation as of noon today

bosoxtodd


Heard from where?

kcg88


From a reliable source. But considering nothing has been announced yet, we are now having doubts......


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Work told us this morning that Dare will be evacuating today. Management was informed by someone on the board.


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I was in an OF rental house for Hurricane Dennis in 1999. It was probably a low 1 and, at first, Dare did not order evacuation. It was harrowing! No power, howling winds for hour after hour, heavy Adirondack chairs slamming from one end of the deck to the other, ocean spray soaking 3rd floor windows and THEN we were evacuated. I swore I would never stay during another storm. Now we own a house (primary residence) that is not OF and the decision-making has changed a bit. We would likely stay unless it was a 3 or higher (maybe...).

HopSkipandJump


You are so correct. Izzy was a 5 until it reached us and then dropped to 1 or 2 but it was MASSIVE in size so the winds were crazy and blew for 20+ hours. At one point I decided to leave the beach road house to go stay on Bay Dr with friends. My wife and 4 animals left two days earlier fro Fredericksburg to stay with friends. I left my house with 6-8 in of water under it in my utility area. I had parked my car 2 lots west and it was high and dry. When I got to Bay Dr it was like a spring storm over there, I was amazed how much difference a few blocks west made.


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Gotta say- evacuating for a fast moving, low level Cat 1 isn't going to do much for improving DC's image after the Covid debacle.


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Work told us this morning that Dare will be evacuating today. Management was informed by someone on the board.

jessicaboyd


If this is accurate and a decision has been made over an hour ago, what's the point in not letting everyone know then and there? There are thousands of people with little kids, babies, elderly parents, dogs etc in route right now. Every hour you save them driving is huge.


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Guests and owners all are equally required to leave. The difference is that it's easier to sent visitors on their way because if they haven't checked in they can be denied access, and because if the owner wants them to leave, they can be told to do so, with police assistance, though it rarely comes to that.

It is a misdemeanor to stay, regardless of your status, except if the evacuation order says otherwise. So it's not that an owner can't be forced to leave as much as no one is ever forced to leave, and rarely are people charged for not leaving, assuming they don't require EMS service after they remain. IF those unnecessary costs are incurred, that's when someone would be charged, because the misdemeanor helps the civil assessment of costs.

Practically speaking, no one will be required to leave the area, even if a mandatory evacuation is ordered and first responders will focus on getting people off the roads and hunkered down before they god dark for the storm (or restrict services, if it's mostly a nothingburger)

With any luck, the County will decide they've embarrassed themselves sufficiently for one year and not jump the gun with an evacuation.


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Work told us this morning that Dare will be evacuating today. Management was informed by someone on the board.

jessicaboyd


If this is accurate and a decision has been made over an hour ago, what's the point in not letting everyone know then and there? There are thousands of people with little kids, babies, elderly parents, dogs etc in route right now. Every hour you save them driving is huge.

BigBill


I agree, as does everyone here. We don’t know anymore about this storm than we did last night. Would have helped a lot of people decide whether or not to get on the road last night or this morning.


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A mandatory evacuation has been ordered for all Hatteras Island visitors beginning today, Saturday, August 1 at 12 p.m. A mandatory evacuation order for all Hatteras Island residents and property owners becomes effective on Sunday, August 2 at 6 a.m. Decision makers will meet again on Sunday morning, August 2 to review the updated forecast and determine whether protective measures are needed for areas of Dare County north of Oregon Inlet. For detailed information, visit www.darenc.com/Isaias.


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It looks to me up here in Kitty Hawk Hatteras has a lot of people heading your way.

The office managers are talking and we think Hatteras will evac but Currituck won't and we don't think the mid section will evac if the tropical storm winds are still predicted to be here and as long as it is predicted to be a fast mover. Time will tell.


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Here is the link to Dare Co and the order.

www.darenc.com/Home/Compo...


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The alert went out around 11:15 am for an evacuation effective 45 minutes later. I can tell you there are a ton of folks down here
early this AM for their check in day. I was driving up from an errand from Buxton to Salvo and alot of cars were heading South, obviously unaware of the announcement. I cannot help but wonder if this announcement could have been made last night, if for no other reason than the logistical nightmare this creates today ?

You also went from turnover day for all cleaners and pool cleaners and vacation gear rental companies to storm prep in a matter of minutes

It is eerily quiet right now but I suspect the lines headed north will be picking up again shortly.


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The traffic cam screenshot I just grabbed at about 1:10pm, Hwy 12@Mirlo




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The timing couldn't be anymore imperfect. Slamming the door in tens of thousands of visitors' faces. They will never forget 2020.


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