New puppy question!

New puppy question!




We are getting a puppy! We finally caved, lol! I’ve never had a dog before and have been watching lots of videos and we will do training classes.

But one thing I can’t figure out is how to let it go in the ocean???? It cant be off the leash at first till we get it to not run away and come. So do we just let him go shallow on the leash and not swim-swim?? Do dogs not like super cold water anyway???

He’s a Labrador puppy. We purposely picked a swimmer because we have a pool at home and go to our OBX house very often.

Help I am CLUELESS! (And a bit overwhelmed! He comes home next week. He’s a bit older, 11 weeks).


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Use a check line, Our lab when we first picked him up used a piece of parachute cord 25 ft. long with a brass swivel snap on one end too attach to his collar at the other end take a piece of 3/4 in. dowel about 8 in. long drill a hole center of dowel run the line through it and then make a loop in the end of the line . That way you place your hand through the loop and grasp the dowel for control. Your other hand you hold the slack line in loose coils allowing it to feed for distance.You need the dowel especially if the dog gets excited and bolts, as the cord will cause friction burns to your hand. Labs are great dogs and very strong. We have a 2 1/2 year old black English lab. He is a fantastic boy.


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I would acclimate the new pup to fresh water before even thinking of the ocean. Take things one step at a time, and let the pup show you progress with the water intro. You can build on the progression as the dog acclimates, and have a good swimmer ready for a new challenge with the big water.

Good advice from bingy above.


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So happy for you. Please continue posting to this thread and include pictures!

We got our new puppy, Coby, a year and half ago. He's part Labrador (and a bunch of other stuff) and our first dog that loves the water.

My advice is to let the puppy explore at his own pace. Don't force it. Get a retractable leash. As Dhart said, I'd be cautious with the ocean. Make sure he doesn't drink a lot of the ocean water. It's going to probably be his first instinct. It's also going to be pretty cold right now, so limit how far/long he's in. If he doesn't want anything to do with the water, don't force it. It'll come. Coby wasn't sure about the water when he was a puppy, but the next year he was jumping in without thinking about it.

Congrats again. You're going to be surprised by how much he becomes a part of the family.

Here's the thread a started for Coby:

www.obxconnection.com/out...


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Definitely do not force him into the water, and yes do a few fresh water trips first, Gunner the first few times did not want anything to do with it (figured I had a lab pup that would not swim) My buddy brought his dog one day we went to the lake his dog right in Gunner just sat and watched for about 1/2 hour, finally I waded in to about my knees him sitting on the shore, coaxed him a bit and he wades in after about 15 mins it was on. Now if we are near even a mud puddle guess what wet Lab. Waiting on summer lets go swimming.


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My two cents:
If you’re not going to breed him, get him neutered at 6 months. And don’t let him get bowled over by the waves before he gets stout, or he’ll never come near the surf again. I agree about drinking salt water, that will be a clean up you don’t forget.


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Congratulations and follow the advice above.

Don’t force puppy to do anything puppy doesn’t want to do with regards to water. They need to build confidence and the first few months with you and your new family member should be spent on bonding and training.

The swimming and whatnot will come in time.

If you’re crate training, make sure you put the crate in your master bedroom. After three hours of puppy crying you’ll wake up at 3 am and let him sleep on your chest in the bed in the middle of the night.

Take him out to pee first!!

It’s all quiet from there on out.

I consider this well and good puppy training ;)

Oh and talk to your vet about neutering at 6 months. If he’s going to be over 100lbs there’s some literature that you should wait until a year to help with joint development. Castrating your dog at a young age, when he’s gonna be a large dog can interfere with hormone production which can lead to joint issues down the line.

If he’s gonna be a 70lb lab — 6 months should be fine.

Keep us posted and good luck!


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So happy for you. Please continue posting to this thread and include pictures!

We got our new puppy, Coby, a year and half ago. He's part Labrador (and a bunch of other stuff) and our first dog that loves the water.

My advice is to let the puppy explore at his own pace. Don't force it. Get a retractable leash. As Dhart said, I'd be cautious with the ocean. Make sure he doesn't drink a lot of the ocean water. It's going to probably be his first instinct. It's also going to be pretty cold right now, so limit how far/long he's in. If he doesn't want anything to do with the water, don't force it. It'll come. Coby wasn't sure about the water when he was a puppy, but the next year he was jumping in without thinking about it.

Congrats again. You're going to be surprised by how much he becomes a part of the family.

Here's the thread a started for Coby:

J4yDubs


Coby is ADORABLE!!!! So cute!!! He looks so calm from the pictures as well - love how he is just flopped on his back!


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Thank you all!! Oh yes, I am NOT breeding him - he is getting neutered for sure! I am learning so much, I had no clue that he might try and drink ocean water. YUCK! Good tip, LOL!

As for fresh water, we have our pool at home but it's not open yet, I might be able to find a creek but we don't have anything around here. He is arriving this week and we are planning on going to our house in March so likely his first big water he sees will be the ocean (or the sound! I could start there, but OMG, how much goose poop would he try and eat?? YUCK!) I won't force anything! Thank you so much for the tips on this.

I have a 10, almost 11 year old son so I am guessing and hoping once he starts swimming the pool the puppy will want to play with him and get used to water that way??

Also it's so bizarre I have tried to load pictures before and it never works. I will try again.


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Use a check line, Our lab when we first picked him up used a piece of parachute cord 25 ft. long with a brass swivel snap on one end too attach to his collar at the other end take a piece of 3/4 in. dowel about 8 in. long drill a hole center of dowel run the line through it and then make a loop in the end of the line . That way you place your hand through the loop and grasp the dowel for control. Your other hand you hold the slack line in loose coils allowing it to feed for distance.You need the dowel especially if the dog gets excited and bolts, as the cord will cause friction burns to your hand. Labs are great dogs and very strong. We have a 2 1/2 year old black English lab. He is a fantastic boy.

obx bingy


thank you for this advice! I am going to do the totally sexist thing and show this to my husband to make!! Tounge smiley


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Trying the picture. Here is his picture. No name yet. Though my son likes Pongo from 101 Dalmatians. The puppy is a surprise for him so we can’t officially name him yet. He also likes the name Shark for a dog. I said absolutely no. Could you imagine yelling SHARK at the beach all the time! Hahaha.

Also my friend used pet finder to show me his picture. Not for selling. She used it because of Covid! He’s not from a puppy mill!




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Cooper, my third Golden. He loves the beach but doesn’t like waves. But you can’t keep him out of the Sound, especially if you throw a ball out there. Mack was 100 lbs., Otter 120 and Coop about 90. All of their vets recommended neutering before 1 year, and Cooper’s at 6 months.
They all slept in their crate for the first year, but then achieved the run of the house. They had a separate smaller crate for the bedroom which kept them more quiet through the night.
I can’t wait for the pictures of “A boy and his dog”!




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Squid, as too nutering, our lab was purchased from a breeder near Fredericksburg Va. She breeds exclusive hunting labs a few things she suggested was wait until 1 year old to do this, reason was it gives the dog time to regulate its hormones, also 2 gycloflex a day and he also gets a supplement for his skin and coat it is Missing Link brand. Our first lab JAKE was a standard bred lab also from a reputable breeder of hunting labs he was 15 years old when he left us bad hips the last few years of his life.


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Good looking lab pup, have fun. As too crate training gunner slept in a crate would put him too bed and I slept right next too him on the floor outside the crate for a few nights all went well. Even now he goes to his crate every night at 10 p.m. after our nightly walk the dog can tell time. curls up and not a noise until 8 a.m.


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Squid, as too nutering, our lab was purchased from a breeder near Fredericksburg Va. She breeds exclusive hunting labs a few things she suggested was wait until 1 year old to do this, reason was it gives the dog time to regulate its hormones, also 2 gycloflex a day and he also gets a supplement for his skin and coat it is Missing Link brand. Our first lab JAKE was a standard bred lab also from a reputable breeder of hunting labs he was 15 years old when he left us bad hips the last few years of his life.

obx bingy



As @obxbingy says - wait at least a year on neutering. And, maybe spread out the inoculations - not just one session of shots.

On training - clicker training works (as do many other methods) and explore an eColler. NOT for the shocking but to migrate to "tone" from "click" - it can get "loud" (wind/crashing waves) in the OBX and having the pup learn to associate the eCollar's tone w the click allows him to run/play anywhere and a simple "tone" alerts him to come.

Last, on water...specifically, ocean....understand a shore break and how badly "not understanding" things can progress with a swimming/fetching pup making his/her way back to shore.

That pupper is sure a cutie!


RE: New puppy question!




Squid, as too nutering, our lab was purchased from a breeder near Fredericksburg Va. She breeds exclusive hunting labs a few things she suggested was wait until 1 year old to do this, reason was it gives the dog time to regulate its hormones, also 2 gycloflex a day and he also gets a supplement for his skin and coat it is Missing Link brand. Our first lab JAKE was a standard bred lab also from a reputable breeder of hunting labs he was 15 years old when he left us bad hips the last few years of his life.

obx bingy



As @obxbingy says - wait at least a year on neutering. And, maybe spread out the inoculations - not just one session of shots.

On training - clicker training works (as do many other methods) and explore an eColler. NOT for the shocking but to migrate to "tone" from "click" - it can get "loud" (wind/crashing waves) in the OBX and having the pup learn to associate the eCollar's tone w the click allows him to run/play anywhere and a simple "tone" alerts him to come.

Last, on water...specifically, ocean....understand a shore break and how badly "not understanding" things can progress with a swimming/fetching pup making his/her way back to shore.

That pupper is sure a cutie!

OceanBlue


Well, I would ask my Vet. I can offer this: Once they start humping your leg, the train has left the station...


RE: New puppy question!




Squid, as too nutering, our lab was purchased from a breeder near Fredericksburg Va. She breeds exclusive hunting labs a few things she suggested was wait until 1 year old to do this, reason was it gives the dog time to regulate its hormones, also 2 gycloflex a day and he also gets a supplement for his skin and coat it is Missing Link brand. Our first lab JAKE was a standard bred lab also from a reputable breeder of hunting labs he was 15 years old when he left us bad hips the last few years of his life.

obx bingy



As @obxbingy says - wait at least a year on neutering. And, maybe spread out the inoculations - not just one session of shots.

On training - clicker training works (as do many other methods) and explore an eColler. NOT for the shocking but to migrate to "tone" from "click" - it can get "loud" (wind/crashing waves) in the OBX and having the pup learn to associate the eCollar's tone w the click allows him to run/play anywhere and a simple "tone" alerts him to come.

Last, on water...specifically, ocean....understand a shore break and how badly "not understanding" things can progress with a swimming/fetching pup making his/her way back to shore.

That pupper is sure a cutie!

OceanBlue


Well, I would ask my Vet. I can offer this: Once they start humping your leg, the train has left the station...

Squid Pro Quo


Totally agree on going w vet's guidance..there is just so much new data on allowing the pups "immune system" to develop before neuter - at least w Labs/Goldens. Haha on the "just better let him finish, Clark" comment - w good training the behavior can be mitigated. Somebody on here may have more detail. I would tell you that our experience is that there is quite the rift these days between the opinions of breeders and vets...each have unique perspectives.


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Agreed!
Let him finish...lol


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Actually those are good questions about neutering and the joint I was going to ask the vet! I'm a runner, nothing extreme but 3 miles a day, I'd love when he gets older for him to accompany me so I want to make sure his joints develop ok! But yes, I do not want any Uncle Eddie moments!

Also an excellent point about the waves. I totally worry about that. this poor puppy has NO IDEA what he's in for, LOL. My son was just telling me when he gets a dog and it's low tide, he's going to take in through those little channels that form between the sandbar and beach on his surfboard in preparation for taking the dog surfing with him. LOL!!! (This is years off, as my son is NOT a good surfer yet)

Since you all have such good advice - anyone have advice on how to get the cats (and a bunny) to not be terrified???


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Thank you all!! Oh yes, I am NOT breeding him - he is getting neutered for sure! I am learning so much, I had no clue that he might try and drink ocean water. YUCK! Good tip, LOL!

groovygirl222


Be warned, he will drink toilet water too if he gets a chance, once he is tall enough! Laughing smiley

We had a black lab, and he was a great dog who loved the water. All water, including the bathtub when our boys were little. Everyone is different, but we don't take our dogs to the beach until they mind very well and can be trusted to come when called in case they would get loose by accident. One of ours will probably never get to go anywhere (we are now her permanent foster home, grandma can't deal with her anymore) because she doesn't mind well enough to stay in a rental house even if she is crated at night and when we aren't there. She is also very skittish, and we aren't sure what she would do if there was another dog at a rest area, etc.

I hope you can post pictures, lab babies are adorable!


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A male dog will hump out of dominance, check out the A.K.C. web site lots of good info. there. Also have him chipped in case he would get away from you it will increase recovering the dog. Patience will be needed for you both but in the long run makes for a great life companion. As to the rabbits and cats gunner will leave the yard rabbits alone but when on a walk he wants to chase them (go figure) introduce them in stages if you have a house cat. When we had Jake we had a cat also meanest dam cat you ever laid eyes on the cat ruled the roost and the lab learnt it was best to cut a wide path around the kitty. They will work it out.


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Ataking the dog surfing with him. ...anyone have advice on how to get the cats (and a bunny) to not be terrified???

groovygirl222


Not intending to be a debbie downer, but actively surfing w a pup, save for maybe paddling around in 1 to 2 and NO ONE else riding won't end well...for a zillion reasons. For every "cool" Instagram there are thousand's with horrible/sad outcomes that didn't get posted.

We've found that pups when introduced as puppies to full grown cats do well, ours actually "cuddled" - just be careful of the pups eyes/nose when that cat decides he/she has had enough and "bops" the pup...claws extended.


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Ataking the dog surfing with him. ...anyone have advice on how to get the cats (and a bunny) to not be terrified???

groovygirl222


Not intending to be a debbie downer, but actively surfing w a pup, save for maybe paddling around in 1 to 2 and NO ONE else riding won't end well...for a zillion reasons. For every "cool" Instagram there are thousand's with horrible/sad outcomes that didn't get posted.

We've found that pups when introduced as puppies to full grown cats do well, ours actually "cuddled" - just be careful of the pups eyes/nose when that cat decides he/she has had enough and "bops" the pup...claws extended.

OceanBlue


No need to worry about the surfing! My son is 10 and CANT surf!! Literally I think all he wants to do is give him a ride on a foam board where there are no waves between the sandbar and shore. Where we are often has a sandbar.

Also my son is kind of a chicken so I don’t anticipate him learning to really surf any time soon! Lol!

As for my cats hitting the puppy. I wish!!! They are currently terrified of the bunny they’ve known their whole life. Hahaha. I hope they come around to the puppy in a year! My fatty kitty will. She will want the chicken treats!!


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Congrats on the new pup! Our “pup” lives at the beach and knows his routine. Morning walk, no swimming and when 5pm comes around he is doing his happy dance to get out and swim. He also knows some days, we don’t let him get in the ocean. His predecessor, another golden, did not like to swim at all. He would sit on the top step of pools and not even go near the edge of the ocean. Just not his thing. This one.... is TOTAL water dog. He has learned to ride the waves but we are very cautious about sending out to fetch when waves are too large, currents too strong or shore break is too severe. We also don’t bring him out before 5pm due to hot sand. If it’s too hot for our feet... it’s too hot for their pads. Cloudy days are a-ok. He gets a cold water rinse (have a dog washing station!) each day to get the salty sandy stuff out of his fur. The Outer Banks winds are great for blow drying on the deck! I keep a container I fill with clean water each day with a bowl I take for his afternoon romp to make sure he doesn’t drink salt water. When he was a pup... he determined his own comfort level for swimming. We did take him to the sound side for easy acclimation and then allowed him to play on shoreline. As he gained confidence, he ventured further but as someone said...if the pup gets crushed by a wave, it may affect desire to go back in again. Enjoy your new little fur buddy and we look forward to those beach puppy pics!




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Patience is the word of the day. Every pup is different, my wife and I have raised three pups and we are on our 3rd rescue. Each dog had a completely different personality. My mother used to breed Goldens. As others have said the first thing he will probably do when he gets to the water is to lap of a bunch of it, then he'll gag / puke. He might due that a few times until he realizes he shouldn't be drinking salt water.

Have fun with your new pup


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