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Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?

Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




New email today...I have the opportunity to pre-reserve my 2022 October weeks for 2023 before they open up 2023 to the public.
It will only cost me $850 to reserve a house I haven't stayed at yet.
It's only 91 weeks away. I guess I should really jump on it! (sarc)
WTF!!


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RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




You're right. Insanity.


RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




Unfortunately, this isn't new. They've been doing this a couple years now, and are not the only agency. My wife and I found our every year house a couple years ago, so given we're going every year around the same time, renting out that far in advance is not a big deal for us, even with the advanced fee.

I know it sucks for new people checking out a new house, and waiting to see if they will like the house, but I guess the agency just knows that they will book up regardless if the current renters want it or not.

Curious what house you rented though, just so I can live vicariously through you!! 800 deposit means a rent of 6k or more per the email, and in October that's a huge house on Hatteras. Chances are you'll love it, and will not hesitate to rent again.


RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




Is the $850 non-refundable so you ate essentially gambling on whatever the rates may be? That I would not do rhis.

If it was refundable if I declined to sign a contract, I might do it.


RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




2 week rental so not that enormous a property.
$25 each week non-refundable so that's not onerous and would pay without a thought.
$400 for each week only applied to the reservation after the lease for 2023 is signed AND the first payment is made. That's WTF.
Surf and Sound in essence is using money for 12 months interest free. Doesn't sound like property owner is in the mix.
I don't go to Vegas , this might be my throw of the dice.


RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




Who can plan their life that far in advance? Not me.


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We stayed in a large cottage in July and took my wife's son & family. I booked it for the same week this year. Guess what, the 3rd grandchild is due that week.

I may be going by myself. I know, ask to move the week to 2023. I'm 71. To repeat, I may be going by myself. ;) I'll worry about 2023 later.


RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




2 week rental so not that enormous a property.
$25 each week non-refundable so that's not onerous and would pay without a thought.
$400 for each week only applied to the reservation after the lease for 2023 is signed AND the first payment is made. That's WTF.
Surf and Sound in essence is using money for 12 months interest free. Doesn't sound like property owner is in the mix.
I don't go to Vegas , this might be my throw of the dice.

treedoc1


I don't hear stuff like this anywhere except on Hatteras. They have gone crazy down there. Non-refundable anything is unheard of up here.



RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




New email today...I have the opportunity to pre-reserve my 2022 October weeks for 2023 before they open up 2023 to the public.
It will only cost me $850 to reserve a house I haven't stayed at yet.
It's only 91 weeks away. I guess I should really jump on it! (sarc)
WTF!!

treedoc1


I, as an owner am opposed to use VRBO, AirBNB and so on.
But, if this kind of nonsense started to flourish among all the PM's in OBX, I would considering going with some other rental venue





RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




I just came here to start a thread about it. I got the email from SoS too. I just made my 2nd payment for 2022, and they’re releasing rates and pre-reserving for 2023 already?? I’ve been reserving about a year in advance for a while now because I’m forced to if I want the house I want in the price range I want, but renting for 2023 6 months before I come down in 2022 is completely crazy.


RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




I barely know what I am going to do in 2022, let alone 2023



RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




I don't know anything about SoS's program, but allowing deposits on 2023 dates has been a growing demand this past year industry wide. It's partly fueled by people who are booking more vacations each year and who want specific amenities and configurations and are willing to pay to get that. Also dealing in the same territory where Vacasa now has a big footprint, right after Vacasa went public, might mean they're offering this to keep up with the demand that business model serves.


RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




My father used to say "Some robbers don't need guns". The rental management companies seem like they are getting the attitude they can get away with it so they will.


RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




I expected an increase when I saw the house we rent at S.O.S. sold for over 2 million last spring. I felt we were under market rate slightly for the last few years while the house was up for sale. Our rent went up over 40%. For the record I had 2 weeks in that pre reserve, $600.00 each week. When I told them I was not going to take the second week I was told I would loose the second week pre reserve fee. Long story short , they did credit my account for the $600.00 and put it towards my one week that we kept.

Looking around rents are nuts in HI.




RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




The rental management companies seem like they are getting the attitude they can get away with it so they will.

jefm


PMs only represent the owner, it's really not solely PMs decision. Owning (and prepping/outfitting) a cottage that (not everyone, but many), during the rental season, "holds" the party of the millennium every week and is subject to renters "it's a rental, WTF cares?" mentality is not just collecting "mailbox money".

For many owners on here it is a biz in which they are heavily vested financially and emotionally. They work their collective butts off to make their cottage a memorable experience, but also earn a fair return.




RE: Surf or Sound email...wants $850 now for 2023?




The rental management companies seem like they are getting the attitude they can get away with it so they will.

jefm


Owning (and prepping/outfitting) a cottage that (not everyone, but many), during the rental season, "holds" the party of the millennium every week and is subject to renters "it's a rental, WTF cares?" mentality is not just collecting "mailbox money".

OceanBlue


Business practices such as thirty or forty percent price increases, nonrefundable fees, and pressuring customers to book two years in advance will only worsen the entitlement attitude that some owners complain about some renters having. Not suggesting that justifies any renter abusing a place, just noting that less-than-savory behavior sometimes begets less-than-savory behavior.

Having said that, I have rented on HI regularly for twenty-plus years and continue to have positive experiences, but like most older persons see things changing in ways I think are not positive. Prices have gone up more than I would like, but for the small (3 bedroom) homes my wife and I rent in the fall and spring, I have not seen the types of increases some others have complained about. I am more concerned about the increasing crowds. That, more than the price, has me seriously considering if I'll return beyond 2022. We usually (not always) rent from Midgett and have found them to be fair and professional. Most years we rent a different cottage for the variety. Years ago, some homes had guest books that were fun and provided a connection between the renter, other guests, and I'm assuming the owners. A couple of times I received a Christmas card from an owner. That personal touch seems to be long gone and now it's all business. People simply aren't as thoughtful in purely business relationships as they are in relationships with a personal touch. Today you can rent a place, check in, spend a week or two, and check out without ever talking to another human being, unless you consider a text or computer-generated email talking. All that makes it easier for the renter prone to bad behavior to not consider that their actions are impacting another person. Again, it doesn't justify bad behavior, but the de-personalization of the process and "business-only" attitudes are not improving things.




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