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#ALERT| PENETRATING TRUAMA | NEW PORT RICHEY | Child listed as a trauma alert after being stabbed in the chest by a catfish. While headed to the hospital with their mother, the child experienced difficulty breathing. Firefighters responded and listed the child as a trauma alert.

The news article stated that some catfish have poisonous venom?? And I used to handle these fish with my bare hands. The "barb" went in the little boy 1 1/2 inches deep. thats pretty deep for a child. His mother stopped driving and called EMS when he started having difficulty breathing. She was trying to drive him to a hospital.


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Anyone that has caught catfish know all too well about the barbs they have. i tried gloves but you need chainmail gloves. If it was a big cat those barbs can be several inches long.


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Sad. Interesting event. Apparently happened in Florida (Pasco County). Could have been a Freshwater Cat, but down there they have Saltwater Catfish, called Gaff Topsail Cats. Their spines can hurt, but not venomous. I favor an allergic reaction to slime on spines. I don't know of any Catfish in the US with any kind of Venom. Catfish do not inject venom. There is a big difference between Venom (Snakes) as opposed to a Toxic Fluid such as Sting Ray Spines. As a heavy duty fisherman and totally obsessed with Marine Life, I would like to know more.



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2009 "A new study by University of Michigan graduate student Jeremy Wright finds that at least 1,250 and possibly more than 1,600 species of catfish may be venomous, far more than previously believed. The research is described in a paper published online Dec. 4 in the open access journal BMC Evolutionary Biology."

"Catfish venom glands are found alongside sharp, bony spines on the edges of the dorsal and pectoral fins, and these spines can be locked into place when the catfish is threatened. When a spine jabs a potential predator, the membrane surrounding the venom gland cells is torn, releasing venom into the wound. In his paper, Wright describes how catfish venoms poison nerves and break down red blood cells, producing such effects as severe pain, reduced blood flow, muscle spasms and respiratory distress. However, because none of the species he examined produces more than three distinct toxins in its venom, each species probably displays only a subset of the whole repertoire of effects.

The main dangers to humans who tangle with North American catfish come not from the initial sting and inflammation, but from secondary bacterial and fungal infections that can be introduced through the puncture wound or when pieces of the spine and other tissue break off in the wound, Wright said. “In such cases, complications associated with these infections and foreign bodies can last several months.”"

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"The main dangers to humans who tangle with North American catfish come not from the initial sting and inflammation, but from secondary bacterial and fungal infections that can be introduced through the puncture wound or when pieces of the spine and other tissue break off in the wound, Wright said. “In such cases, complications associated with these infections and foreign bodies can last several months."

Agree with the article from Johnbt except the chances of secondary infections can come from puncture wounds from any fish.....especially handling King Mackerels with too much beer confidence.....resulting in blood poisoning, almost losing a finger from the infection, and a big shot of antibiotics in the butt.....err, happened to a friend of mine.....pay attention to those puncture wounds from handling fish!







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A puncture to the chest wall can allow air to get sucked in and collapse one or both lungs. Sounds like that is what happened to this poor child, especially since the first responders labelled it as a trauma alert which means life threatening and gets the hospital staff and surgeons prepared to take the patient into surgery immediately.

Edit to add: the child was flown to St. Joes Childrens Hospital in Tampa for treatment.


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This very interesting. I think there is a group of terms which many people, even very knowledgeable educators and scientist erroneously use interchangeably and are misleading. I would have to do more research on the words Venom, Poison and Toxin. What that researcher describes is similar to a Sting Ray, where very small membranes or "sacks" containing a toxin on the Spine rupture and allow it to enter the wound. I would have to conclude that what happened to that poor child is a very, very uncommon accident. Shades of Steve Irwin, the Crocodile Hunter.


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I never knew a catfish could hurt you that badly. I watched that show on Noodling with the big ones latching on to your hand as being fun?? okay. Maybe the scariest fish I handled alone as a kid was a Northern Pike. He had been eating ducklings that day and was staying under a bridge. My outdoorsman brother in law had me go down in waders and bring him up a hill. the teeth scared me so I threw him down and the fish almost got run over by a car. lol. He was flopping all over the place. It was hands on training. I remember those slippery catfish well.


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I never knew a catfish could hurt you that badly. I watched that show on Noodling with the big ones latching on to your hand as being fun?? okay. Maybe the scariest fish I handled alone as a kid was a Northern Pike. He had been eating ducklings that day and was staying under a bridge. My outdoorsman brother in law had me go down in waders and bring him up a hill. the teeth scared me so I threw him down and the fish almost got run over by a car. lol. He was flopping all over the place. It was hands on training. I remember those slippery catfish well.


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I recall fishing on a pier in Texas when I was young, a fisherman who thought he was smart decided to step on a gafftop rather than handling it and the barb went straight through his sneaker and into his foot.


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The most dangerous catfish in the world (and yes, this is a catfish) might be a myth, but I'm not going to the Amazon anytime soon to find out! Confused smiley




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