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Sad situation all the way around.

Sad situation all the way around.




In KDH, in late May, a mail carrier was backing her Post Office truck on a street when she accidentally hit an 84 year old man. He was apparently crossing the road to his mailbox. He died a few days later.

The carrier stayed on the scene. I'm guessing these PO vehicles don't have a backup camera like all new cars have (I love my rear camera on my 2017 Chevy Volt). It's a shame the guy didn't wait just a little longer to let her move on before getting his mail.


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The old LLV - long life vehicle - that was introduced in the mid-80s does not have a camera. The new NGDV trucks that are s l o w l y being rolled out have 360-degree camera coverage. And AC and heat and stuff, too.


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Around here, if you get out and about at the right time of day you'll see people walking, zombie-like, somewhere between the house and the mailbox, you know you're getting ready to come upon the mail carrier.

Mostly "senior citizens", I'm sure they sit and wait for the mail and are out the door as soon as the truck pulls off. They'll walk right out in the road without even looking. Even worse if on a road where mailboxes are only on one side and they have to walk all the way across... without looking.

It amazes me more don't get hit.


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That's true, about the mail boxes on one side and people walking across slowly.. We live on a 2-lane road outside of Richmond. It's 4 or 5 miles down the road to our little dead end side street. The county road has no shoulders, only ditches, and all the mail boxes are on the west side and a very high percentage of the houses are on the east side (there are more large tracts of undeveloped land on the west side - the James River side.)
If you think it's a dangerous situation now with a 45 mph speed limit, you should have seen it up until a year or so back when it had been 55 mph forever. Everyone still thinks it's 55 or higher. Life in the country. Thing is the county boat landing is farther down the road and the big bass boat and pontoons on trailers take up all of their lane and don't have room to stop.


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We live on a 2-lane road outside of Richmond. It's 4 or 5 miles down the road to our little dead end side street. The county road has no shoulders, only ditches, and all the mail boxes are on the west side and a very high percentage of the houses are on the east side (there are more large tracts of undeveloped land on the west side - the James River side.)
If you think it's a dangerous situation now with a 45 mph speed limit, you should have seen it up until a year or so back when it had been 55 mph forever. Everyone still thinks it's 55 or higher. Life in the country. Thing is the county boat landing is farther down the road and the big bass boat and pontoons on trailers take up all of their lane and don't have room to stop.

johnbt


Osborne Landing! It's been a few years since I've been to the Lily Pad. Nice spot.


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Unfortunately, it sounds like the victim needed family supervision/support. Speaking from experience here.


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"It's been a few years since I've been to the Lily Pad. Nice spot."

It's changed a little. They keep expanding.






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It is a nice spot whether you boat in or drive in.
The old days.






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"It's been a few years since I've been to the Lily Pad. Nice spot."

It's changed a little. They keep expanding.

johnbt


I was there 2-3 years ago. It was impressive the last time I was there. I grew up in KW county and went to VCU before moving to NC and have a lot of connections in the area still.


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To get back to the topic, the Post Office apparently has rules about backing up. These delivery trucks have very poor view to the rear. I live on a street with no outlet and a lot of large trucks will go to the end at the cul-de-sac to reverse course rather than back up. It takes a little longer but safer.

Years ago I worked at airport pumping aviation gas. We had a "small" 800 gallon truck I usually drove. When I was hired my boss said: "never back up". He said you're driving a bomb here with airplane wings sticking out and all.

I feel for the PO lady. She will carry this with her the rest of her life. Sad all the way around.


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To get back to the topic, the Post Office apparently has rules about backing up. These delivery trucks have very poor view to the rear. I live on a street with no outlet and a lot of large trucks will go to the end at the cul-de-sac to reverse course rather than back up. It takes a little longer but safer.

Years ago I worked at airport pumping aviation gas. We had a "small" 800 gallon truck I usually drove. When I was hired my boss said: "never back up". He said you're driving a bomb here with airplane wings sticking out and all.

I feel for the PO lady. She will carry this with her the rest of her life. Sad all the way around.

KHbiker


I feel sorry for her too. Apparently, she was driving her own vehicle. I have never heard of a PO clerk around my parts driving a Mercedes delivering mail. And it was a 2021 model and for sure it had to have had a back up camera...maybe even a 360 view one depending on the class of the model. Just mistakes on both sides involved maybe.


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To get back to the topic, the Post Office apparently has rules about backing up. These delivery trucks have very poor view to the rear. I live on a street with no outlet and a lot of large trucks will go to the end at the cul-de-sac to reverse course rather than back up. It takes a little longer but safer.

Years ago I worked at airport pumping aviation gas. We had a "small" 800 gallon truck I usually drove. When I was hired my boss said: "never back up". He said you're driving a bomb here with airplane wings sticking out and all.

I feel for the PO lady. She will carry this with her the rest of her life. Sad all the way around.

KHbiker


Apparently, she was driving her own vehicle. I have never heard of a PO clerk around my parts driving a Mercedes delivering mail. And it was a 2021 model and for sure it had to have had a back up camera...maybe even a 360 view one

Bentmtn


The vehicle was a Mercedes Metris per the news articles. A quick Google search tells us that USPS uses those and they are branded as such. Mercedes is a popular vehicle used by many service and delivery companies, you probably see them all the time, but the slightly larger ones akin to a Ford Transit. Google tells me they are equipped with a backup cam, but I don't see mention of 360. Up in the northern towns the USPS vehicles I've seen are all company owned and branded. South Nags Head has a lady in a maroon Jeep that is unbranded and appears to be personal. She drives like the carrier in Funny Farm. I'm guessing down in Frisco the rural route carrier is also in a personal vehicle. It sounds like an unfortunate accident.

Personally, I do not use my rear cam except for the final feet of parking so that I can get my truck square in the parking space and as far back as possible. Cameras are for folks who do not know how to use mirrors. As one who learned on mirrors, driven trucks my whole life, and towed boats... backing INTO position and preparing for a FORWARD exit is safest. Some folks disagree with this and even get pissy on Facebook about the backer-uppers who take longer to park, but... backing in allows you to inspect the area for danger prior to the reverse and the mirrors give you **100%** visibility as your rear end swings into position. Backing out onto a street is ridiculous, but I don't know the USPS policies on reversing so maybe they allow this unsafe practice. Ideally she would have stayed on the street and walked the 50' up to the house, but that street is very tight so I can see why she wouldn't block the road. It is sad.


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"Mercedes Metris" Looks familiar. I suppose I've seen them and never bothered think anything other than 'van'


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Being a carrier for the past 26 years, I can tell you that she in all likelihood lost her job. USPS has 0 tolerance policy for reverse/backing accidents.



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Personally, I do not use my rear cam except for the final feet of parking so that I can get my truck square in the parking space and as far back as possible. Cameras are for folks who do not know how to use mirrors. As one who learned on mirrors, driven trucks my whole life, and towed boats... backing INTO position and preparing for a FORWARD exit is safest. Some folks disagree with this and even get pissy on Facebook about the backer-uppers who take longer to park, but... backing in allows you to inspect the area for danger prior to the reverse and the mirrors give you **100%** visibility as your rear end swings into position. Backing out onto a street is ridiculous, but I don't know the USPS policies on reversing so maybe they allow this unsafe practice. Ideally she would have stayed on the street and walked the 50' up to the house, but that street is very tight so I can see why she wouldn't block the road. It is sad.

Mstaszew


Although I’ve been doing this for over 50 years I graduated from “Mirrors only” backing up to using four fields of vision. Both mirrors, and the tailgate and overhead view cameras. The cameras prevent me from running over the hurried pedestrian that may be between my mirrors. Although I am fully in agreement with backing into parking spots for the reasons you mentioned. Fleet vehicles are instructed to back in only for parking. Many of their parking lots are labeled as such. It’s a proven fact that less pedestrians are struck when back in parking is regulated.


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I like having a rear view camera for parallel parking and hooking up my boat. I don't need it, but it's there to use.
The overhead view computer-generated pic (front and back cameras and the two under the side view mirrors) in my '23 4Runner TRD ORP is GREAT for making sure I'm centered in a parking space and have left room to open the hatch to load the cases from Total Wine & Beer.

The overhead view is also great for seeing how close your passenger side trailer wheel is to falling off the side of the ramp into the mud or the rocks..

But I have a lifetime of experience without them. I learned to drive on a tractor and a huge boat of a '59 Chevy and have had jobs driving dump trucks, tree service trucks, spray trucks and logging trucks. My father gets a lot of credit for teaching me. He was mountain boy who left the State Police to work as a safety engineer for a national trucking company - training semi drivers, working wrecks, dealing with insurance companies and police/prosecutors.


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Although I’ve been doing this for over 50 years I graduated from “Mirrors only” backing up to using four fields of vision. Both mirrors, and the tailgate and overhead view cameras. The cameras prevent me from running over the hurried pedestrian that may be between my mirrors. Although I am fully in agreement with backing into parking spots for the reasons you mentioned. Fleet vehicles are instructed to back in only for parking. Many of their parking lots are labeled as such. It’s a proven fact that less pedestrians are struck when back in parking is regulated.

Squid Pro Quo


Cameras definitely have their place and I think some folks really benefit from them, for sure. I also believe you can reverse without just as safely with proper understanding of your vehicle's footprint, maintaining a safe (super slow) speed, and having properly adjusted mirrors and the knowledge to use them.

Your rear cam may not save you from a hurried pedestrian. The one and only time I've hit someone was in Richmond while in college. I was driving down a side street looking for a parking space and this chick who was late for class bolted right in front of my Blazer. I had great visibility (I thought) and she literally popped out of nowhere between two cars in a full sprint. I was only going 10 mph or so and she put her hands on my hood and back peddled as I stopped. She didn't even hit the ground and she profusely apologized before running away to class. Your tools are no match for a hurried pedestrian who doesn't pay attention.


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I used to think panoramic golf cart mirrors were sort of gimmicky. Not anymore.

I have two side view mirrors on the cart that are mounted below the fold down windshield hinges. Great for not clipping trees. poles and things when backing.
But the 5-panel panoramic mirror let's the driver see almost everything going on back there - left land, behind you, and right lane. I can't figure out how to put one on my truck.








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So cheap to add a back up Camera to a car.

I have a 2004 Xterra that I added a system that hooks up to my phone to get Navigation and Music. It has a Back Up Camera as well. This was about $75 on Amazon, and it took me about two hours to connect it all


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