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Which beaches does the NPS close for the birds?

What beaches do the NPS close for the birds?




We have never visited the OBX before and are so excited for our first vacation there this summer! However, as I have been reading and looking at everything I can about Hatteras Island on the internet, I have stumbled upon the NPS and the closing of the beaches for some bird. We will be staying in Hatteras Village the week of July 05, 2014 -July 12, 2014 and in Buxton July 02, 2014 till the morning of July 05, 2014. Now I am worried about beach closures, should I be? And, what beaches will be closed?

I have watched the video "America's Beach The People of Hatteras Island" on YouTube and feel really upset about the NPS and what they are doing to the people who live and work on Hatteras Island!


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RE: Which beaches does the NPS close for the birds?




The areas where the birds show breeding behavior, and nest are the ones that are closed till the birds fledge.. Historically, the beaches in front of the villages have not been closed. I hope your first visit is wonderful


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For the last 3 years the drive on beach at the museum in Hatteras (Ramp 55) has been open during your visit dates. There's about 1.7 miles of ocean beach open there. There won't be much drive on beach open in Buxton until mid to late August, and north of Avon is a mixed bag depending on bird and turtle closures. It's later in the summer that turtle nests will have nest to water closures in effect that can effectively close the ocean beaches to vehicular traffic. That happens depending on the turtle egg nests projected hatch window.


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The main issue is to not drive on the beach when the Pipng Plovers are nesting. I would not recommend even trying without educating yourself first. As long as you are in a village you should easily have personal access to the beach. Since you are first timer, stay off the sea oats too. Hefty fines there too. We have been going to OBX for about 14 years and have never had a problem. We don't drive on the beach, stay away from the grass and stay away from areas roped off or signs. I'm not a fan of the situation and feel for the locals and fishermen who have always enjoyed the point and I regret that I probably will never get that opportunity. Luckily I have a boat though.

Back to the beach issue, it is actually up to the birds and it can be any beach at any time, unfortunately. The birds are terrible planners much like the officials in charge of the mess.

I am sure you will enjoy your trip and I am thinking back to our first trip. It was a life changing moment. There is no place we would rather be than OBX. Especially Hatteras Village!


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Back to the beach issue, it is actually up to the birds and it can be any beach at any time, unfortunately.


...Except in the villages. Which is the mystery of the ages.


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Thank you all for answering my question. I know it must be taxing to have to repeat yourself answering the same questions over and over that we new Outer Banks visitors ask. Beat up

From what I have read, I guess we won't get to walk out to the point this summer on our visit as it seems the point is closed off to all human activity in the summer months because of the birds. I hope that is not the situation when we are there in July, because I was so looking forward to visiting the point! I don't care to drive on the beach, I can be a bit understanding about not wanting vehicles "near the birds" but not even being able to walk in the areas that they birds are near seems a bit excessive to me.


RE: Which beaches does the NPS close for the birds?




"A bit" is the understatement of the decade in regards to this situation.

There's a good chance that you won't be able to walk to the point in July. And for that, I apologize. It's a wonderful, almost spiritual experience for many of us. Maybe you can come back in the fall or winter sometime.


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Point usually opens around the end of July. Just found out point was closed as of 6am this morning.


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There you have it Sawyer. The Point closes because, supposedly, some birds may be exhibiting pre-nesting activities. In other words if the birds are getting it on the people, who own the beach, must get off! The timing also coincides with the anticipated arrival of big drum so the NPNon-Service can conviently keep us nasty fishermen out of their bird sanctuary.
I hope that you do get to enjoy the OBX this summer. Unless the current corrupt administration is booted out of DC the park will soon be for critters only - closed to we who own it. For those who say it will never happen a few years back few would have thought the OBX beaches would arbitrarily be closed to visitors in favor of a handful of special interests and a corrupt judge! Welcome to Hope/Change.


RE: Which beaches does the NPS close for the birds?




Your question: What beaches do the NPS close for the birds??

Answer: The beaches where the best fishing is...the beach everyone wants to be on.....

But I see you will be there in July.....I don't know any thing about July & closurers, so maybe you can still get to the Point...wouldn't bet on it tho....However...you & your family will still have a great vacation on Hatteras Isl.....there's lots of beaches open & you will have a great time. Also the beaches are NOT closed in front of the cottages in Buxton!!


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Check the NPS maps before you go. If you see a small area of red (no access) with blue beyond this (walking allowed). You can get beyond the red by walking in the water (below the tide line).

If the entire area is in red - then there is no land access.

Looking at the map today, you can walk to the point. You have to walk in the water for a short length, and then back on land.

www.nps.gov/caha/planyour...


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The sooner we do away with the NPS the better......turn it over to an agency with some common sense Thumbs down Thumbs downIt's the same thing every year....weather gets nice....fish start biting.....visitors show up to enjoy the Point.....beach is shut down because of an imaginary bird......pathetic at best Thumbs down Thumbs down



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RE: Which beaches does the NPS close for the birds?




The sooner we do away with the NPS the better...

+1 on this.


RE: Which beaches does the NPS close for the birds?




The sooner we do away with the NPS the better......turn it over to an agency with some common sense Thumbs down Thumbs downIt's the same thing every year....weather gets nice....fish start biting.....visitors show up to enjoy the Point.....beach is shut down because of an imaginary bird......pathetic at best Thumbs down Thumbs down
No comment Dennis? Guess he hasn't seen this thread yet!


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Good thing this is only a local issue and only affects local visitors. Banana


RE: Which beaches does the NPS close for the birds?




The sooner we do away with the NPS the better......turn it over to an agency with some common sense Thumbs down Thumbs downIt's the same thing every year....weather gets nice....fish start biting.....visitors show up to enjoy the Point.....beach is shut down because of an imaginary bird......pathetic at best Thumbs down Thumbs down
No comment Dennis? Guess he hasn't seen this thread yet!


I guess you want Dennis to comment so you all can just delete his reply.
How do you know he hasn't already posted a comment and the special 5 has had it deleted.
You all get upset when he posts, then you asks for him to post.
This makes no sense to me.


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Fred, you have a vivid imagination. Is there a group of five? I must have missed that post. FYI: Dennis doesn't post on this forum. Probably because his grandstanding and misinformation falls on deaf ears here. Too many whom follow this forum are truly educated in the issues that effect the island, and like they say....He aint from around here.


RE: Which beaches does the NPS close for the birds?




The sooner we do away with the NPS the better......turn it over to an agency with some common sense Thumbs down Thumbs downIt's the same thing every year....weather gets nice....fish start biting.....visitors show up to enjoy the Point.....beach is shut down because of an imaginary bird......pathetic at best Thumbs down Thumbs down
No comment Dennis? Guess he hasn't seen this thread yet!


I guess you want Dennis to comment so you all can just delete his reply.
How do you know he hasn't already posted a comment and the special 5 has had it deleted.
You all get upset when he posts, then you asks for him to post.
This makes no sense to me.
Not part of "The Special Five" here Beach Fred, just an observer. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even Dennis. You'll never hear me give someone a hard time for voicing their opinion whether I agree with it or not. Just saying I can't believe he's remaining silent about something he obviously feels so strongly about. My opinions on this subject have not and will not be posted here. Talking about something and doing something about it are two different things. I prefer my actions to speak for what I believe as opposed to back and bickering, although I do find it amusing. Pass the popcorn please!


RE: Which beaches does the NPS close for the birds?




The sooner we do away with the NPS the better......turn it over to an agency with some common sense Thumbs down Thumbs downIt's the same thing every year....weather gets nice....fish start biting.....visitors show up to enjoy the Point.....beach is shut down because of an imaginary bird......pathetic at best Thumbs down Thumbs down
No comment Dennis? Guess he hasn't seen this thread yet!


I guess you want Dennis to comment so you all can just delete his reply.
How do you know he hasn't already posted a comment and the special 5 has had it deleted.
You all get upset when he posts, then you asks for him to post.
This makes no sense to me.
Not part of "The Special Five" here Beach Fred, just an observer. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even Dennis. You'll never hear me give someone a hard time for voicing their opinion whether I agree with it or not. Just saying I can't believe he's remaining silent about something he obviously feels so strongly about. My opinions on this subject have not and will not be posted here. Talking about something and doing something about it are two different things. I prefer my actions to speak for what I believe as opposed to back and bickering, although I do find it amusing. Pass the popcorn please!


I understand what you're saying Md.Chas, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Thanks for explaining your side. I do agree with what you're saying. At times I find enjoyment In watching others go at it, as long as both sides have an equal chance to state their side. There is no way I know everything and I am always hoping to add to my knowledge, but they can't get the other side deleted just because they don't share the same view.

To Squid, the "Special 5" are the 5 flags it takes to get someone's post deleted. The 5 who think it is their job to police this site and decide what we are going to read. I don't know how anyone can think that is fair.


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#1 Dennis isn't allowed to post in the Local Issues forum for obvious reasons. That has been in effect for several years now.

#2 Nobody wants to moderate the board. Will denies that he has a hand in deleting threads. IF there is indeed some 5 posters who have organized then it is my suggestion that they are the ones who object to a thread in its whole nature & flag the opening post so as to delete the entire thread. And that is what Will claims so it must be true.

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RE: Which beaches does the NPS close for the birds?




#1 Dennis isn't allowed to post in the Local Issues forum for obvious reasons. That has been in effect for several years now.

#2 Nobody wants to moderate the board. Will denies that he has a hand in deleting threads. IF there is indeed some 5 posters who have organized then it is my suggestion that they are the ones who object to a thread in its whole nature & flag the opening post so as to delete the entire thread. And that is what Will claims so it must be true.

Angel smiley


Will has stated before that the flag system does work that way.
I can see the flags working when used properly, it's the miss use of the flags that isn't right. Flag a post that is offensive or vulgar, don't flag it because they don't agree with you.

I am curious about if one person can hit the flag button 5 times or if it has to be five different people? I also think that the person being flagged has the right to know who flagged them.


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It has to be five different people. Why Is it so hard for you to understand that five different people found the recurring double post of a dead turtle offensive? Perhaps you are accusing some people of collusion?


RE: Which beaches does the NPS close for the birds?




It has to be five different people. Why Is it so hard for you to understand that five different people found the recurring double post of a dead turtle offensive? Perhaps you are accusing some people of collusion?


Hey Squid, thanks for the info on the five different people needing to delete a post.

I'm not talking about just the post that Dennis posted with the turtle pictures. I've seen several of his posts deleted with or without pictures, recently and in the past.
Have a Great Day


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Well the group of five must not be conservatives. If they were, they wouldn't be squashing anybody's first amendment right to freedom of speech.


RE: Which beaches does the NPS close for the birds?




Well the group of five must not be conservatives. If they were, they wouldn't be squashing anybody's first amendment right to freedom of speech.


Hey, I don't think politics has anything to do with it. In my opinion, they don't like Dennis, they want to drive and fish the point (and there is nothing wrong with that) and Dennis supports the side getting in their way of that. They delete his posts because he doesn't align with their views. I've seen it on message boards, I've seen it in real life. Again, just my opinion.


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