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House passes bill that would change ORV plan

House passes bill that would change ORV plan




The Cape Hatteras legislation instructs the Secretary of Interior to review and adjust wildlife protection buffers and to confer with the state of North Carolina on certain buffers. It also makes other modifications to the final ORV plan, such as the earlier opening beaches that are closed at night during the summer, extending seasonal ORV routes in the fall and spring, and modifying the size and location of vehicle-free areas.
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still a long way to go before being enacted, and no guarantee the NPS will change it's policies



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I would not hold my breath on changes even if it is enacted.
The CHNRS changes are part of a consent decree from the courts. They were not legislated nor were they policies they procedurely adopted so it is very possible the will continue with the same thing.


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Unfortunately, that is going to give the SELC and the "three horsemen of the apocalypse" another platform the start their gravy-train lawsuits. Thumbs down


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I love it ... it is a link to the IFP soooooo I will not be clicking on same. The link sez part of the "Defense Bill" What a laugh; however it should bring out all the unrestricted open access ORV crowd out to "defend" CHNS. Banana






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^many bills have attachments to them before they go to the floor. It is not an unusual practice


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^many bills have attachments to them before they go to the floor. It is not an unusual practice


why sure they do and many times they have no relation as to what the bill is all about .... it is called pork and please explain to me just what the defense bill has to do with the regulations at CHNS ... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that would be NONE, yes? Piggy


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I never said it had anything to do with the regulations at CHNSRA, and I will not be baited into a debate on this.


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I love it ... it is a link to the IFP soooooo I will not be clicking on same. Banana



A closed mind is a terrible thing to use. Read up a bit. Open your mind to ideas that differ from yours.

Also, great to see nuns exercising the opportunity to get outdoors and harvest our natural bounty!





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I love it ... it is a link to the IFP soooooo I will not be clicking on same. Banana



A closed mind is a terrible thing to use. Read up a bit. Open your mind to ideas that differ from yours.




DITTO! In love

Anyone who sees ORV access as THE ONLY issue is woefully ignorant of the truth!


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I love it ... it is a link to the IFP soooooo I will not be clicking on same. Banana





DITTO! In love

Anyone who sees ORV access as THE ONLY issue is woefully ignorant of the truth!


If you read the article, you would note that the bill's sponsor actually voted against the Act on PRINCIPLE. I realize that unprincipled reactionaries such as you would not understand or behave in such a way - you are just too regimented to see differing opinions.
I too, have concerns about the breadth of the Act, and potential unintended consequences. Consider opening your mind to new ideas, so your Grandchildren may be more tolerant of differing opinions.
Just pointing out the obvious. I understand that when you disagree with facts that don't match your dogma, the truth is obviously (to you) irrelevant.
Have a nice day!




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"unrestricted open access ORV crowd"

Who might this crowd be? Not anyone I know. This talking point is wearing thin isn't it?


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Also included in the "Defense" bill is the give away of valuable copper resources currently owed by the U.S. taxpayers.


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Also included in the "Defense" bill is the give away of valuable copper resources currently owed by the U.S. taxpayers.


Maybe. This is one of the areas that I have misgivings. You describe incorrectly, in sound bite form, a reappropriation of public lands, AND traditional Tribal Lands, into unilateral Federal control, with the POSSIBILITY of leases to a private enterprise at the expense of private landowners and traditional Tribal rights. The only benefactor is the Federal Government BLM. It is a land grab, pure and simple. The devil is in the details.




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Reporting on the bill says that the U.S. government is being directed to give 2,300 acres to Resolution Copper. yes it does sound like a land grab by the copper company.


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Reporting on the bill says that the U.S. government is being directed to give 2,300 acres to Resolution Copper. yes it does sound like a land grab by the copper company.


A couple of thoughts - and I appreciate your post -

1. "Reporting" is often an interpretation and not factual - it is in the eye of the reporter (often with an agenda), and depends on who is doing the reporting. I have seen both sides "reported" on this issue. My concern is a loss of public access to public lands, loss of private land mineral rights, and possible violation of past treaties with Native Americans who own and control mineral rights by Treaty.

2. Who "directs" the US Government to do anything? Oh, that's right...the US Government! Look up Bureau of Land Management. This Bureau is orchestrating the largest land grab, and control of private lands and restriction of private enterprise in recorded history.

Follow the money. The Copper prospectors MAY have struck quite a deal for mineral rights on Federal Land, without having to follow those pesky things called the Legislative Process and Constitution. If so, I can't blame them. BLM opened the door, invited them in, and offered.


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Pure and simple post "Citizens United" America. Your elected officials direct your government to take your money (and resources) and give it to Corporate America; they (CA), in turn, kick some of it back to your elected officials, who then use it to get reelected. USA Flag


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Why don't people actually read the bill instead of accepting crappy and often biased reporting? This group seem pretty literate, so become actually educated.... read here: Click to follow link...


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Why don't people actually read the bill instead of accepting crappy and often biased reporting? This group seem pretty literate, so become actually educated.... read here: Click to follow link...


Thanks Beachmark! I did, although from sources other than the CRS Congressional staff summary you provided(Federal Register, etc.). As I wrote, the devil is in the details. I think all too often our Representatives and Senators rely only on CRS staff summaries (or less) when voting.

[The Congressional Research Service (CRS) of the Library of Congress works exclusively for the United States Congress, providing policy and legal analysis to committees and Members of both the House and Senate, regardless of party affiliation. CRS provides Congress with analysis that is authoritative, confidential, objective, and non-partisan.]


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