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An interesting article. No doubt this thread will generate some reactions. I appreciate reading it, Dennis.


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The end is near. For all of you property owners soon to be literally under water I will give you 50% of the appraised value immediately. I may not be in a position to do this in 2045 so you'd better jump on the offer now!


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THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING !!!!!!


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I will take my chances.


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Yep they are known for their contradictions that are pretty frequent. You want to be a member...just send in your dues and application form and you are an instant "scientist". I think I will let Sochi and Mollie become members.

There is no shortage of opinions for sure:

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Thanks for the info Dennis,
Been living on and off HI since he early 60's, this article fits my experiences. I sold a rental house here recently for less than appraised value and probably 1/2 what I could have sold it for 10 years ago and I feel lucky to have sold it for what I did. Anyone driving through PI thinking of purchasing real estate on HI probably thinks twice about it now.


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THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING !!!!!!


NO ... the sky is NOT falling ... THE OCEAN IS RISING!

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Yep they are known for their contradictions that are pretty frequent. You want to be a member...just send in your dues and application form and you are an instant "scientist". I think I will let Sochi and Mollie become members.

There is no shortage of opinions for sure:

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Fact not fiction like the two goofey links you provided.

For all ya doubters:

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be sure to click on "The Reality of Climate Change: 10 Myths Busted" in the article.


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According to the University of Colorado, sea level along the North Carolina coast is rising at a rate of 1.4 mm/year. This is less than one half of their measured global rate of 3.1 mm/year.

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/

The graph below plots the grid cells at (32.5, 281.5) (33.5,282.5) (34.5,283.5) (34.5,284.5) and (35.5,285.5)
https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/screenhunter_30-jun-27-06-55.jpg


Over the next 88 years, sea level would be expected to rise five inches in North Carolina.

The NC Coastal Resources Commission created a reporting saying that North Carolina will have one metre of sea level rise during the rest of the century – which would require an acceleration of 800% over current rates. In response, the North Carolina Senate passed a bill requiring that only historical data be used – and proposed a rise of 8 inches.

This has caused a huge backlash from people with a vested interest in spreading climate misinformation. The one metre number is ridiculous, unsupportable and has no evidence to back it up.

https://stevengoddard.fil...


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According to the University of Colorado, sea level along the North Carolina coast is rising at a rate of 1.4 mm/year. This is less than one half of their measured global rate of 3.1 mm/year.

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/

The graph below plots the grid cells at (32.5, 281.5) (33.5,282.5) (34.5,283.5) (34.5,284.5) and (35.5,285.5)
https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/screenhunter_30-jun-27-06-55.jpg


Over the next 88 years, sea level would be expected to rise five inches in North Carolina.

The NC Coastal Resources Commission created a reporting saying that North Carolina will have one metre of sea level rise during the rest of the century – which would require an acceleration of 800% over current rates. In response, the North Carolina Senate passed a bill requiring that only historical data be used – and proposed a rise of 8 inches.

This has caused a huge backlash from people with a vested interest in spreading climate misinformation. The one metre number is ridiculous, unsupportable and has no evidence to back it up.


The folks that own these cottages might disagree with you:





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According to the University of Colorado, sea level along the North Carolina coast is rising at a rate of 1.4 mm/year. This is less than one half of their measured global rate of 3.1 mm/year.

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/

The graph below plots the grid cells at (32.5, 281.5) (33.5,282.5) (34.5,283.5) (34.5,284.5) and (35.5,285.5)
https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/screenhunter_30-jun-27-06-55.jpg


Over the next 88 years, sea level would be expected to rise five inches in North Carolina.

The NC Coastal Resources Commission created a reporting saying that North Carolina will have one metre of sea level rise during the rest of the century – which would require an acceleration of 800% over current rates. In response, the North Carolina Senate passed a bill requiring that only historical data be used – and proposed a rise of 8 inches.

This has caused a huge backlash from people with a vested interest in spreading climate misinformation. The one metre number is ridiculous, unsupportable and has no evidence to back it up.


The folks that own these cottages might disagree with you:


Only if they believe in fantasy. Your picture is from a storm and beach erosion and absolutely zero to do with climate change and sea level rise. You are just misguided and misinformed with no basis for your alarmist claims. And no surprise coming from you.



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According to the University of Colorado, sea level along the North Carolina coast is rising at a rate of 1.4 mm/year. This is less than one half of their measured global rate of 3.1 mm/year.

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/

The graph below plots the grid cells at (32.5, 281.5) (33.5,282.5) (34.5,283.5) (34.5,284.5) and (35.5,285.5)
https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/screenhunter_30-jun-27-06-55.jpg


Over the next 88 years, sea level would be expected to rise five inches in North Carolina.

The NC Coastal Resources Commission created a reporting saying that North Carolina will have one metre of sea level rise during the rest of the century – which would require an acceleration of 800% over current rates. In response, the North Carolina Senate passed a bill requiring that only historical data be used – and proposed a rise of 8 inches.

This has caused a huge backlash from people with a vested interest in spreading climate misinformation. The one metre number is ridiculous, unsupportable and has no evidence to back it up.


The folks that own these cottages might disagree with you:


Only if they believe in fantasy. Your picture is from a storm and beach erosion and absolutely zero to do with climate change and sea level rise. You are just a misguided and misinformed with no basis for your alarmist claims. And no surprise coming from you.


Your childish comments towards me do not change facts. Take a lookie see at that same area of homes in SHN when there are not any storms and let me know what you think.

I really like what Stephen Colbert's sez about your thoughts of the North Carolina Senate bill they passed:

"The report prompted a backlash from coastal developers and climate skeptics—and in 2012, from the state. Lawmakers in Raleigh considered a bill that would have prohibited state agencies from planning for accelerated sea-level rise.

Environmentalists were outraged, bloggers snickered, and even comedian Stephen Colbert weighed in: "If your science gives you a result you don't like, pass a law saying the result is illegal," he joked. "Problem solved."

Eventually, the state settled on a watered-down version of the law: a four-year moratorium on sea-level regulations, and an order for a new scientific study of sea-level rise, due out in 2015. In May, a state commission asked the science panel to limit its next sea-level forecast to 30 years."




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According to the University of Colorado, sea level along the North Carolina coast is rising at a rate of 1.4 mm/year. This is less than one half of their measured global rate of 3.1 mm/year.

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/

The graph below plots the grid cells at (32.5, 281.5) (33.5,282.5) (34.5,283.5) (34.5,284.5) and (35.5,285.5)
https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/screenhunter_30-jun-27-06-55.jpg


Over the next 88 years, sea level would be expected to rise five inches in North Carolina.

The NC Coastal Resources Commission created a reporting saying that North Carolina will have one metre of sea level rise during the rest of the century – which would require an acceleration of 800% over current rates. In response, the North Carolina Senate passed a bill requiring that only historical data be used – and proposed a rise of 8 inches.

This has caused a huge backlash from people with a vested interest in spreading climate misinformation. The one metre number is ridiculous, unsupportable and has no evidence to back it up.


The folks that own these cottages might disagree with you:


Only if they believe in fantasy. Your picture is from a storm and beach erosion and absolutely zero to do with climate change and sea level rise. You are just a misguided and misinformed with no basis for your alarmist claims. And no surprise coming from you.


Your childish comments towards me do not change facts. Take a lookie see at that same area of homes in SHN when there are not any storms and let me know what you think.

I really like what Stephen Colbert's sez about your thoughts of the North Carolina Senate bill they passed:

"The report prompted a backlash from coastal developers and climate skeptics—and in 2012, from the state. Lawmakers in Raleigh considered a bill that would have prohibited state agencies from planning for accelerated sea-level rise.

Environmentalists were outraged, bloggers snickered, and even comedian Stephen Colbert weighed in: "If your science gives you a result you don't like, pass a law saying the result is illegal," he joked. "Problem solved."

Eventually, the state settled on a watered-down version of the law: a four-year moratorium on sea-level regulations, and an order for a new scientific study of sea-level rise, due out in 2015. In May, a state commission asked the science panel to limit its next sea-level forecast to 30 years."


I'll rely on scientific data while you in fantasy land can rely on comedians and political activist alarmist organizations like UCS. Banana


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The sea level is rising,that's why over 20,000 properties along the Outer Banks are COMING OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE under the new flood maps being proposed. Laughing smiley

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Here's a video from Willo Kelly on the issue.

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The sea level is rising,that's why over 20,000 properties along the Outer Banks are COMING OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE under the new flood maps being proposed. Laughing smiley


WOW what a relief ... no sea level rise ... now no one has to worry about any beach nourishment projects being planned or implemented. Laughing smiley


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The sea level is rising,that's why over 20,000 properties along the Outer Banks are COMING OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE under the new flood maps being proposed. Laughing smiley


WOW what a relief ... no sea level rise ... now no one has to worry about any beach nourishment projects being planned or implemented. Laughing smiley


No one is doing beach nourishment because of sea level rise, it's because of natural erosion. You really have no clue what your talkng about and it shows.



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The sea level is rising,that's why over 20,000 properties along the Outer Banks are COMING OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE under the new flood maps being proposed. Laughing smiley


WOW what a relief ... no sea level rise ... now no one has to worry about any beach nourishment projects being planned or implemented. Laughing smiley


No one is doing beach nourishment because of sea level rise, it's because of natural erosion. You really have no clue what your talkng about and it shows.


WOW looks like scientists have no clue either ...

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The sea level is rising,that's why over 20,000 properties along the Outer Banks are COMING OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE under the new flood maps being proposed. Laughing smiley


WOW what a relief ... no sea level rise ... now no one has to worry about any beach nourishment projects being planned or implemented. Laughing smiley


No one is doing beach nourishment because of sea level rise, it's because of natural erosion. You really have no clue what your talkng about and it shows.


WOW looks like scientists have no clue either ...

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Obama's EPA says,
"Climate change models project that global sea level rise will accelerate in the 21st century."

And these models have been consistently wrong for at least 18 years. Real raw data shows no acceleration in sea level rise. Lack of beach nourishment at hotspots and the Man made dunes seems to accelerate erosion along the OBX.
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The sea level is rising,that's why over 20,000 properties along the Outer Banks are COMING OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE under the new flood maps being proposed. Laughing smiley


WOW what a relief ... no sea level rise ... now no one has to worry about any beach nourishment projects being planned or implemented. Laughing smiley


No one is doing beach nourishment because of sea level rise, it's because of natural erosion. You really have no clue what your talkng about and it shows.


WOW looks like scientists have no clue either ...

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The beach is being renourished to replace the sand that has been lost due to coastal storms.

EPA=Enviro Freaks


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Like I stated...there is no shortage of opinions. Building too close to the ocean is affected by storm surge and relentless pounding, not sea level rise in my unscientific opinion. If we really are entering a new ice age...eventually a lot of jobs will be lost in the Science community. Right now, your dog can become a member of a scientific group. $$$$$$

BTW, I live in an area of accretion...explain that on Climate warming.


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Like I stated...there is no shortage of opinions. Building too close to the ocean is affected by storm surge and relentless pounding, not sea level rise in my unscientific opinion. If we really are entering a new ice age...eventually a lot of jobs will be lost in the Science community. Right now, your dog can become a member of a scientific group. $$$$$$

BTW, I live in an area of accretion...explain that on Climate warming.


"Building too close to the ocean"? How far do you think those houses in SNH were from the ocean when they were constructed?

Instead of your "unscientific opinion" I will depend on those scientists who base their opinions on research and fact. i.e., Stan Riggs

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and Orrin Pilkey

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who hold Doctorate degrees in their field.

I was reminded by a member who has not posted for a while that:

"What they don't get about sea level rise is that it increases storm surge heights - a 1" rise = a ~1' increase in storm surge.."

If you live in an "area of accretion." count yourself lucky because except for approx 3/4 of a mile all of Nags Head and South Nags Head experienced beach nourishment, soooooo is your answer that all the houses were built too close to the ocean?




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The old Riggsonian theorem of don't build where I want the beach to remain pristine for my elitist friends. "SNH is exempt from storms." That is a revelation. I guess the noreasters just bypass that section of beach. Some posters here should move to Colorado where they can smoke that stuff legally!


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Like I stated...there is no shortage of opinions. Building too close to the ocean is affected by storm surge and relentless pounding, not sea level rise in my unscientific opinion. If we really are entering a new ice age...eventually a lot of jobs will be lost in the Science community. Right now, your dog can become a member of a scientific group. $$$$$$

BTW, I live in an area of accretion...explain that on Climate warming.


"Building too close to the ocean"? How far do you think those houses in SNH were from the ocean when they were constructed?

Instead of your "unscientific opinion" I will depend on those scientists who base their opinions on research and fact. i.e., Stan Riggs

Click to follow link...

and Orrin Pilkey

Click to follow link...

who hold Doctorate degrees in their field.

I was reminded by a member who has not posted for a while that:

"What they don't get about sea level rise is that it increases storm surge heights - a 1" rise = a ~1' increase in storm surge.."

If you live in an "area of accretion." count yourself lucky because except for approx 3/4 of a mile all of Nags Head and South Nags Head experienced beach nourishment, soooooo is your answer that all the houses were built too close to the ocean?



It is still erosion rates and impact zone chicken little. Yes, I know Serendipity was built about a thousand feet from the ocean in Rodanthe. I also know that sand drifts south adding to the misery of SNH. When I was coming down here in the 60's and early 70's we knew families that had oceanfront motel cottages and they were gone, as their neighbors behind them by the 80's. Erosion because of global warming? Look for the high impact zones and you will find erosion and plenty of shells and sea glass at low tide.


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