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News on proposed Buxton beach nourishment




Meeting yesterday seems to indicate that BN will be moving forward, perhaps this spring or summer, with the caveat of obtaining a special use permit.
The taxing, I'm sure, will elicit "colorful" responses.

In the local news section for today , February 16

www.islandfreepress.org


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Can't correct title via edit?
Will, should read proposed, not props end.


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Thanks for the update, Judy.


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http://outerbanksvoice.com/2016/02/17/dare-hopes-to-beat-odds-and-widen-buxton-beach-this-year/ - covering the same story.


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More info on this

www.parkplanning.nps.gov/projectHome.cfm?projectID=55120


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The comment period for the EIS in the above linked webpage expired Oct 2015. So it would be educational to see where the decision on this lays.

Interesting that the NPS project manager for this has a Colorodo area code phone number...??


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The comment period for the EIS in the above linked webpage expired Oct 2015. So it would be educational to see where the decision on this lays.

Interesting that the NPS project manager for this has a Colorodo area code phone number...??


http://islandfreepress.org/2016Archives/02.19.2016-NPSIssuesSpecialUsePermitForBuxtonBeachNourishment.html


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Thanks!


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I do not know a lot about the science of beach nourishment, but I am thankful they are finally starting this project. Curious as to why they didn't start it further north since the sand seems to go from north to south. Seems to me with even more sand sand north also with the sand they are placing as planned it might keep this area covered for a while
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Also has anything been mentioned about artificial reefs to help trap the sand and soften the wave force? I read about areas that have utilized this and it has helped slow erosion plus add habit for sea life. This plus adding sand would slow the process of erosion, not stop it, but slow it. To help protect those who live here.

Just wanting to know more info. Thanks


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Artificial reefs would probably work. Old timers recall ships that became temporarily grounded just off the beach by the motels. In a matter of days you could walk to the grounded ship. The problem now is getting the required permits.


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Sunken ships will exacerbate erosion down current. BN is a very temporary bandaid that will last at best a few years. It is the wrong approach.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/science/sea-level-rise-global-warming-climate-change.html?emc=edit_th_20160223&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=35948338&referer=


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Sunken ships will exacerbate erosion down current. BN is a very temporary bandaid that will last at best a few years. It is the wrong approach.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/science/sea-level-rise-global-warming-climate-change.html?emc=edit_th_20160223&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=35948338&referer=


Predictable and assumptive response.


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http://coastalcare.org/educate/shoreline-engineering/

Maybe this will help explain why sunken ships wouldn't be a great idea.


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http://coastalcare.org/educate/shoreline-engineering/

Maybe this will help explain why sunken ships wouldn't be a great idea.


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It didn't for me. I failed to read about offshore structures. Not talking hardening the beach, Jetties, Groins or seawalls. Maybe 12/ mile offshore. Maybe concrete, maybe reef balls, whatever.
I've seen it work in many places around the world of course here on HI we can count on opposition from certain groups regardless.


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It didn't for me. I failed to read about offshore structures. Not talking hardening the beach, Jetties, Groins or seawalls. Maybe 12/ mile offshore. Maybe concrete, maybe reef balls, whatever.
I've seen it work in many places around the world of course here on HI we can count on opposition from certain groups regardless.


Would like to see some literature where strategically placed sunken ships 1/2 mile offshore of a barrier island have stabilized/protected the beach.
They would make for some excellent fishing and diving but I have my doubts as to how they would help with rising sea level and eroding beaches. I am all for artificial reefs, be they concrete rubble, derelict ships or reef balls. It is not that I wouldn't want them to work (stabilize ocean beaches), I just think it is a silver bullet idea with no scientific evidence.


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It didn't for me. I failed to read about offshore structures. Not talking hardening the beach, Jetties, Groins or seawalls. Maybe 12/ mile offshore. Maybe concrete, maybe reef balls, whatever.
I've seen it work in many places around the world of course here on HI we can count on opposition from certain groups regardless.


Would like to see some literature where strategically placed sunken ships 1/2 mile offshore of a barrier island have stabilized/protected the beach.
They would make for some excellent fishing and diving but I have my doubts as to how they would help with rising sea level and eroding beaches. I am all for artificial reefs, be they concrete rubble, derelict ships or reef balls. It is not that I wouldn't want them to work (stabilize ocean beaches), I just think it is a silver bullet idea with no scientific evidence.


Literature? Seriously? You come in swinging the NYTimes(!) and a .org hypothesis and ask for literature on a very narrowly-focused use of sunken structure after stating that rising sea levels are a fact? Dude, widen your horizons. There is free and open thinking, and personal observation that has much more value.

I have already anticipated your next two questions. Dig deep now, and think independently.


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"Too much sand here, not enough there" by Irene Nolan.

http://islandfreepress.org/PivotBlog/


RE: News on props end Buxton beach nourishment




It didn't for me. I failed to read about offshore structures. Not talking hardening the beach, Jetties, Groins or seawalls. Maybe 12/ mile offshore. Maybe concrete, maybe reef balls, whatever.
I've seen it work in many places around the world of course here on HI we can count on opposition from certain groups regardless.


Would like to see some literature where strategically placed sunken ships 1/2 mile offshore of a barrier island have stabilized/protected the beach.
They would make for some excellent fishing and diving but I have my doubts as to how they would help with rising sea level and eroding beaches. I am all for artificial reefs, be they concrete rubble, derelict ships or reef balls. It is not that I wouldn't want them to work (stabilize ocean beaches), I just think it is a silver bullet idea with no scientific evidence.


Literature? Seriously? You come in swinging the NYTimes(!) and a .org hypothesis and ask for literature on a very narrowly-focused use of sunken structure after stating that rising sea levels are a fact? Dude, widen your horizons. There is free and open thinking, and personal observation that has much more value.

I have already anticipated your next two questions. Dig deep now, and think independently.


Don't be shy what are my next 2 questions venerable seer?


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He came back....


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One of the most stable areas on the NC beaches is Salvo, which look to be protected by the Wimble Shoals. So that by itself says that offshore structure do sometime for beach protection and stability. Whether a row of ships sunken offshore would duplicate that is something I can't answer; it certainly SEEMS like it would help.


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Same product that was used for scour protection at Oregon Inlet.



www.conteches.com/Products/Erosion-Control/Hard-Armor/A-Jacks


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http://islandfreepress.org/2016Archives/02.29.2016-HatterasIslandRealEstateBridgeReplacementProjects.html

Interestingly within this article about the new bridge: "Most of the existing bridge will be demolished, and the demolition material will be added to several offshore reefs. About 1,200 feet of the bridge will be left in place both as a “fishing pier” and possibly as a means to help keep deeper water from migrating south across the inlet. It is anticipated that the new bridge will be more durable than the current bridge, ensure safer navigation through Oregon Inlet, and potentially reduce the amount of dredging needed to keep the inlet open."

Not attempting to shore up any point of view - merely thought it was interesting..and it does say "possibly".

P.S. Sea Oats I am just starting to read through your link.


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